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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

That decapitate terfs sign

118 replies

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 22/01/2023 10:38

Not sure if this has been discussed here yet but on wombling through my Twitter feed I found this picture.

Why on Earth would any venue so happily trumpet their involvement with this?

And I fund the black bloc - and it's fucking scary how much real bile went into this.

I hope some one sensible is taking note. This can't go unchecked - can it?

That decapitate terfs sign
That decapitate terfs sign
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MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 13:11

SinnerBoy · 12/05/2023 13:06

He didn't say he was going to drag a woman out, he mentioned Eddie Izzard.

Suzy Izzard is a transwomen and legally entitled to use women's toilets. Graham is not above the law and if he lays one finger on her I hope the cops finally haul him off to prison.

GailBlancheViola · 12/05/2023 13:12

Eddie Izzard is not legally entitled to use women's toilets.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 13:13

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2023 13:07

I'm still waiting to hear if the police have found who made and displayed that sign.

I'm also wondering if we will find out which creep took the photo of the women's toilet queue and shared it online without consent.

It's being brought to the attention of both the police (both the photo itself and the violent threat made by GL re it) and St Pancras International Station who said they are investigating.

GailBlancheViola · 12/05/2023 13:14

But make to my Decapitate sign - you are going to stand by me and stand up for me aren't you @MerlinsLostMarbles ?

I may also carry a 'Kill 'x' trans person' sign as that lovely TW who carried a 'Kill JKR' sign, again I am sure you will accept that this is only a joke and will be there fighting in my corner.

Boiledbeetle · 12/05/2023 13:18

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 13:11

Suzy Izzard is a transwomen and legally entitled to use women's toilets. Graham is not above the law and if he lays one finger on her I hope the cops finally haul him off to prison.

Izzard, like Graham, is a man. Izzard does not have a GRC, which is currently the only way he could justify using the women's toilets. So if you think Graham shouldn't be in the ladies then you should accept the fact that neither should Izzard. I look at both and i see 2 men.

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2023 13:19

That sign is horrifying to me because I am a woman in Scotland who has listened to males saying I should be 'throat punched' because I don't believe that a male has the right to access women's single sex spaces.

It is credible because there is history of violent males threatening women, attacking women, and intimidating women if those women stand up for their rights.

Anyone minimising this, or trying to derail with some utterly unrelated event, are complicit in supporting the silencing of women, which is tantamount to supporting VAWG.

Merlin, much as I find your posts irritating, I would like to believe that you don't think this is a good thing to help support. Please confirm that you don't support the minimisation of violence against women?

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2023 13:20

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 13:13

I'm also wondering if we will find out which creep took the photo of the women's toilet queue and shared it online without consent.

It's being brought to the attention of both the police (both the photo itself and the violent threat made by GL re it) and St Pancras International Station who said they are investigating.

Concentrate, Merlin! This thread is about the sign displayed at the protest! It says so in the OP. I will absolutely not allow you to derail it.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 13:20

Boiledbeetle · 12/05/2023 13:18

Izzard, like Graham, is a man. Izzard does not have a GRC, which is currently the only way he could justify using the women's toilets. So if you think Graham shouldn't be in the ladies then you should accept the fact that neither should Izzard. I look at both and i see 2 men.

"Izzard does not have a GRC"

If I understand correctly, this doesn't matter.

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2023 13:22

'Decapitate terfs' sign, Merlin. Focus!

RufustheSpecuIatingreindeer · 12/05/2023 13:25

I agree all threats are wrong and should be condemned, but I would question if the "decapacitation" threat is credible? I mean, does that person really have a guillotine and are they really going to drag it all the way to Glasgow's Buchanan Street?

However a 6 and a half foot man threatening to enter a woman's toilets to drag a woman out by her boots IMO sounds like a very real and credible hate-motivated threat that should be taken seriously by police

oh stop with the bollocks for gods sake

your hypocrisy is off the scale….

you always attempt to have it both ways, absolutely ridiculous

and obviously you don’t need a guillotine to cut someones head off, pathetic

TWETMIRF · 12/05/2023 13:28

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 13:20

"Izzard does not have a GRC"

If I understand correctly, this doesn't matter.

Yes, it doesn't matter as even transwomen with GRCs can be legally excluded from women's spaces

IcakedefargeIam · 12/05/2023 13:38

Well, the Police are (ineptly) investigating the 'decapitate terfs' sign, they don't seem to think it's a joke.

RoyalCorgi · 12/05/2023 14:21

Yet you want the police to spend their resources tracking down a sign with a cartoon drawing of a guillotine on it that didn't directly name anyone.

Ah, so if it doesn't name anyone, that makes it OK, does it?

And yet if someone had had a sign saying "Decapitate trans people" we'd have heard the wails of outrage down in Land's End. You lot describe misgendering as "literal violence" and "genocide" after all. Unfortunately for you, Mumsnetters are not interested. We know a toddler tantrum when we see one.

Pudmyboy · 12/05/2023 15:40

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2023 13:22

'Decapitate terfs' sign, Merlin. Focus!

This, @MerlinsLostMarbles , and again:
Women are not responsible for men's actions, start a separate thread on Glinner in AIBU if he is so much on your mind!

Helleofabore · 12/05/2023 15:49

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2023 13:19

That sign is horrifying to me because I am a woman in Scotland who has listened to males saying I should be 'throat punched' because I don't believe that a male has the right to access women's single sex spaces.

It is credible because there is history of violent males threatening women, attacking women, and intimidating women if those women stand up for their rights.

Anyone minimising this, or trying to derail with some utterly unrelated event, are complicit in supporting the silencing of women, which is tantamount to supporting VAWG.

Merlin, much as I find your posts irritating, I would like to believe that you don't think this is a good thing to help support. Please confirm that you don't support the minimisation of violence against women?

I wouldn’t count on the minimising to stop to be honest. I mean, eventually even they will be cornered and will have to stop the dismissing of violence against women … this time. Then it will start again afresh next thread.

nilsmousehammer · 12/05/2023 16:09

But even when faced directly with the facts, as demonstrated here, those followers of the ideology who are sufficiently extreme, just won't acknowledge them, or divert or distract. They cannot and will not face the realities that are uncomfortable and do not fit with their faith. They will never 'see' them or be able to face up to them.

Which is why someone of this ideology is not a suitable person to be in a position of responsibility: you cannot have believers in selective reality who are unable to cope with facts in jobs that require capacity for fairness, public service, responsibility, compliance with policy and law, or impartiality. This faith is not compatible with it.

Waitwhat23 · 12/05/2023 17:57

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 13:01

I'm still waiting to her about how a 6 and a half foot man saying on Twitter he will enter women's toilets and violently drag a woman out is a "joke".

I didn't say it was a joke.

Back to my question (which you side stepped). Why is a sign saying 'decapitate terfs' funny?

SinnerBoy · 12/05/2023 23:29

MerlinsLostMarbles · Today 13:11

Suzy Izzard is a transwomen and legally entitled to use women's toilets.

I'm convinced that you know that neither of those things are true. Especially not him being more than one transw.

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