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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

That decapitate terfs sign

118 replies

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 22/01/2023 10:38

Not sure if this has been discussed here yet but on wombling through my Twitter feed I found this picture.

Why on Earth would any venue so happily trumpet their involvement with this?

And I fund the black bloc - and it's fucking scary how much real bile went into this.

I hope some one sensible is taking note. This can't go unchecked - can it?

That decapitate terfs sign
That decapitate terfs sign
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MerlinsLostMarbles · 11/05/2023 13:33

Talking about threats, Graham Linehan threatened to drag a transwoman out the women's toilets by her boots a week ago. Not the first time he's threatened LGBT people.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230504113300/twitter.com/Glinner/status/1654046152952627202" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20230504113300/twitter.com/Glinner/status/1654046152952627202

IcakedefargeIam · 11/05/2023 13:46

Well, the links don't seem to work. But we agree threats should be condemned? Particularly death threats?

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2023 14:00

Goodness me, whataboutery seems to be having a moment lately.

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2023 14:07

I don't think they've been looking very hard have they!

Odd. I remember the name that was mentioned at the time (I won't post it here), and the fact that he had previously been up on a murder charge - though, strangely, the charge doesn't seem to have progressed to trial, at least not yet. So either it was a case of misidentification or, as you say, the police haven't looked very hard.

Pudmyboy · 11/05/2023 14:11

The link doesn't work which makes me a bit suspicious. This thread is about the open declaration that terfs should meet a violent death, and police still not being able to find them despite being visible in the published picture, talking about Glinner is a poor whataboutery, as Arabella points out

GailBlancheViola · 11/05/2023 14:21

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2023 14:00

Goodness me, whataboutery seems to be having a moment lately.

As always deflect, deflect deflect. Make a nice change if posters such as Merlin would, for once, remain on topic and condemn the actions of the person this thread is about.

It is always take the spotlight away from the sacred caste, can't have them being held accountable for their actions, dearie me no.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 11/05/2023 23:32

The link is valid but web archive links are broken when posted on here, seems to be a MN formatting issue. You can still access the link by highlighting and then selecting "go go link". I can post a screenshot if you want.

I agree all threats are wrong and should be condemned, but I would question if the "decapacitation" threat is credible? I mean, does that person really have a guillotine and are they really going to drag it all the way to Glasgow's Buchanan Street?

However a 6 and a half foot man threatening to enter a woman's toilets to drag a woman out by her boots IMO sounds like a very real and credible hate-motivated threat that should be taken seriously by police.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 11/05/2023 23:37

https://web.archive.org/web/20230504113300/twitter.com/Glinner/status/1654046152952627202

Maybe this will work.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/05/2023 23:41

Always the minimising of VAWG from a certain poster - years of it! It was only a little sign. Decapitation is so unlikely. There are no guillotines anywhere... tinkly laugh

When someone shows you who they are.....

IwantToRetire · 11/05/2023 23:42

I agree this is a bit of what abouterry, but can those posting on FWR just paste basic links, Why all this faffing around with web archives.

If anyone is interested just you need the bit of the overcomplicated url that contains the twitter link

And when you get there you will see that there is no thread to LGBTQI+ people, but a very reasonable response to a man arrogantly queuing upp in a women's toilet, and that he is supporting the women complaining about him being there.

So I dont think that a man who is prepared to challenge another man who having the indecency to invade a woman's only service provision, is anything like a public encouragement to decap women who believe in women's sex based rights.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 00:07

So if you were in the women's public toilets and a transwoman was also in there minding her own business, you would be happy if a man barged in to violently assault the transwoman?

Boiledbeetle · 12/05/2023 00:12

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 00:07

So if you were in the women's public toilets and a transwoman was also in there minding her own business, you would be happy if a man barged in to violently assault the transwoman?

I would be telling the man myself to get out. If another man then entered to assault the first man. I'd be telling him to fuck off as well

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 00:17

So at least we're in agreement that Graham Linehan, a cis man, should not be entering women's toilets.

At least that's a start.

Shelefttheweb · 12/05/2023 00:31

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 00:17

So at least we're in agreement that Graham Linehan, a cis man, should not be entering women's toilets.

At least that's a start.

I doubt any ‘cis’ man would drag a man who identified as a woman out of the women’s toilets given any man who identifies as ‘cis’ is a follower of transgenderism. They would probably cheer on the other man destroying women’s spaces and disregarding women’s needs for privacy, safety and dignity

But claiming threats of violence by a man with a murder charge hanging over them is not credible? When three women are murdered every week? When there is an epidemic of male violence against women? Yeah right.

Shelefttheweb · 12/05/2023 00:33

Graham Lineham is not a cis man, or do you not believe in respecting people’s identities? Just like you don’t respect women’s single sex spaces?

Boiledbeetle · 12/05/2023 00:33

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 00:17

So at least we're in agreement that Graham Linehan, a cis man, should not be entering women's toilets.

At least that's a start.

not totally... Graham linehan a man. Get rid of the cis, as it's not required, but yes we are in agreement he shouldn't be entering the women's toilets.

Boiledbeetle · 12/05/2023 00:34

But NEITHER SHOULD THE MAN PRETENDING TO BE A WOMAN

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 00:44

Shelefttheweb · 12/05/2023 00:33

Graham Lineham is not a cis man, or do you not believe in respecting people’s identities? Just like you don’t respect women’s single sex spaces?

I'm confused. GL is definitely not trans?

Boiledbeetle · 12/05/2023 00:46

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 00:44

I'm confused. GL is definitely not trans?

He's not trans. But he's not cis either. He's just a man.

IwantToRetire · 12/05/2023 00:53

So if you were in the women's public toilets and a transwoman was also in there minding her own business, you would be happy if a man barged in to violently assault the transwoman?

Another stupid mis-response in an attempt to cover up that you originally posted something totally untrue.

I am not supporting male violence.

I was pointing out you made a totally inaccurate statement.

Two men having a punch up is not to be encouraged, but Glinner making a jokey remark IN SUPPORT OF THE WOMEN COMPLAINING ABOUT A MAN IN A DRESS INVADING THEIR SPACE, ie he is just saying how he would react, is not as you ridiculously tried to make out is anyone encouraging anyone else to attack LGBTQI+ people.

I am pointing out that what you say is just plain silly and adolescent whatabouterry and you cant even post a link properly.

One man talking about him having a male response to another man IS NOT THE SAME AS A PLACARD DISPLAYED IN PUBLIC ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DECAP TERFS.

The more you go on, the more it shows that you dont have the decency to condemn this encouragement of others to attack women who stand up for women's sex based rights.

Everytime you post this whatabouterry you show your willingness to allow that public encouragement to attack women in okay.

You should be supporting women's rights and instead of focusing on one man instead provide the link to let us all complain that those running St Pancras toilets are not protecting women uses their facilities as well as publicly condeming EI as an arrogant man who got away with intimidating women.

Your failure to do this illustrates what your real agenda is.

PorcelinaV · 12/05/2023 05:28

MerlinsLostMarbles · 11/05/2023 23:32

The link is valid but web archive links are broken when posted on here, seems to be a MN formatting issue. You can still access the link by highlighting and then selecting "go go link". I can post a screenshot if you want.

I agree all threats are wrong and should be condemned, but I would question if the "decapacitation" threat is credible? I mean, does that person really have a guillotine and are they really going to drag it all the way to Glasgow's Buchanan Street?

However a 6 and a half foot man threatening to enter a woman's toilets to drag a woman out by her boots IMO sounds like a very real and credible hate-motivated threat that should be taken seriously by police.

I think actual decapitation is unlikely, but that doesn't mean people will not be inspired to real violence because of a sign like that.

You can't say the sign doesn't have real connotations of violence, when we have seen the activists using real violence.

PorcelinaV · 12/05/2023 05:33

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 22/01/2023 10:38

Not sure if this has been discussed here yet but on wombling through my Twitter feed I found this picture.

Why on Earth would any venue so happily trumpet their involvement with this?

And I fund the black bloc - and it's fucking scary how much real bile went into this.

I hope some one sensible is taking note. This can't go unchecked - can it?

Am I reading this correctly?

You support violent anarchists, but they have gone too far this time?

dunBle · 12/05/2023 06:40

@IwantToRetire the reason for using the webarchive links is to show how the page looked at the time it was archived, which can be handy if someone does some surreptitious editing or takes the page down entirely later. With twitter it's also a way of seeing tweets that got deleted later because they were reported, or where the twitter user has blocked all and sundry.

Cailin66 · 12/05/2023 06:51

MerlinsLostMarbles · 11/05/2023 23:37

Is Eddy Izzard holding his penis in that link?

Badgeringabout · 12/05/2023 07:40

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/05/2023 00:44

I'm confused. GL is definitely not trans?

He's a man. No stupid labels required. Respect his identity.