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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'

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ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 13:23

twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1616767482785632260

'Stewart McDonald, Kirsten Oswald, Kaukab Stewart and Alison Thewliss were at the Glasgow protest to support the trans community and stand up for Scotland's democracy.'

That's them standing in front of a sign that says 'decapitate terfs'.

Again, I'm genuinely fucking shocked. This inflammatory, violent rhetoric is not acceptable.

SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'
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BlackForestCake · 22/01/2023 13:32

It's opportunism from the SWP. See a large movement for something or other and try to recruit from it. They bring the placards and hand them out, so most of the people with the placards are not actually SWP supporters.

ArabellaScott · 22/01/2023 13:37

Thread from Aja on gender/trans activists threatening women at protests:

twitter.com/Aja02537920/status/1617143815306989568

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TheClogLady · 22/01/2023 13:37

YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/01/2023 13:11

Excellent! There were at least two placards though. The other one was shaped like a guillotine and was aimed at 'Terfs' and 'Swerfs'.

This is the second one.

Anyone who goes to these lengths to conceal their face surely knows they are up to something shady?

SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'
SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'
ArabellaScott · 22/01/2023 13:45

That cardboard guillotine is not from yesterday.

I think it's Canada, a while back.

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AlisonDonut · 22/01/2023 13:54

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 17:15

Was it this one?

A lot of people turned up to support trans rights. KJK will be green with envy because she can't get anywhere near those numbers of supporters.

I don't understand your point. More people with probably more placards with more offensive threats to women who won't obey?

Whereareyourshoes · 22/01/2023 13:54

TheClogLady · 22/01/2023 13:37

This is the second one.

Anyone who goes to these lengths to conceal their face surely knows they are up to something shady?

This charming protest was directed towards Meghan Murphy when she was speaking about women’s rights in Toronto.

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2019/11/06/vancouver-panel-on-gender-identity-and-media-bias-encapsulates-conflict-between-women-and-trans-activists/

YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/01/2023 14:01

Oh ok. I found it on another thread or maybe it was a Twitter link alongside the one being discussed - sorry!

TheClogLady · 22/01/2023 14:02

Whereareyourshoes · 22/01/2023 13:54

This charming protest was directed towards Meghan Murphy when she was speaking about women’s rights in Toronto.

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2019/11/06/vancouver-panel-on-gender-identity-and-media-bias-encapsulates-conflict-between-women-and-trans-activists/

Thanks for the source correction!

Bit worrying that placards advocating guillotining politically inconvenient wimms is an international phenomenon!

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 14:18

A message to those that still don't get it

THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY?

Does this look right?
Everyone?
Can you see yet?
Are you still blind?
Perhaps you missed it?
It was there in plain sight
There were
A lot of signs
Telling each and
Every one of those politicians
That tried to deny the
Evidence
Right there!
FUCKING HELL
Seriously?

DECAPITATE TERFS??

WAKE UP

SinnerBoy · 22/01/2023 14:21

Very good, @Boiledbeetle

VinoDino · 22/01/2023 14:36

Christ, JKR has tweeted about the 'man' who threatened her, Rosie and Kellie Jay online, and India Willoughby has popped up with 'well you've pushed them to the end of their tether'!

And major media outlets continue to employ this deranged angry man?

ArabellaScott · 22/01/2023 14:45

Another of the MPs filmed in front of the sign decries it, unfortunately using an ableist slur as he does so:

'The violent sign at yesterday’s rally is utterly heinous and condemned without question. I suspect it may even be unlawful. The moron who made it and is holding it has done those protesting for trans equality and democracy no favours - quite the opposite.'

twitter.com/StewartMcDonald/status/1617040613265874944?cxt=HHwWgIC90dn38PAsAAAA

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StephanieSuperpowers · 22/01/2023 14:50

I wonder if it was wrong for any reason other than how it makes trans people look?

SweetSenorita · 22/01/2023 14:50

VinoDino · 22/01/2023 14:36

Christ, JKR has tweeted about the 'man' who threatened her, Rosie and Kellie Jay online, and India Willoughby has popped up with 'well you've pushed them to the end of their tether'!

And major media outlets continue to employ this deranged angry man?

India Willoughby? Vile man!

WarriorN · 22/01/2023 15:13

Well that's right out of the abusers handbook isn't it?

"You made me do it!"

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 15:15

ArabellaScott · 22/01/2023 14:45

Another of the MPs filmed in front of the sign decries it, unfortunately using an ableist slur as he does so:

'The violent sign at yesterday’s rally is utterly heinous and condemned without question. I suspect it may even be unlawful. The moron who made it and is holding it has done those protesting for trans equality and democracy no favours - quite the opposite.'

twitter.com/StewartMcDonald/status/1617040613265874944?cxt=HHwWgIC90dn38PAsAAAA

Nope. I'm not having this.

THEY KNOW.THEY FUCKING KNOW AND THEY CAN FUCK OFF WITH THEIR PATHETIC EXCUSES.

they support the trans activists and support what they stand for. They stand for decapitating women. No ifs. No buts. These people support that sign. I, and the internet will never forget or forgive.

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 16:24

"This time it's placards
Next time it's not"

https://twitter.com/brianthee_cat/status/1617141512407748612?s=46&t=WYaJey3WcgvQB5L6Rt2SJw

In. Plain. Sight.

CriticalCondition · 22/01/2023 16:41

I've been thinking about this very carefully painted sign which obviously took some time and thought to do and the choice of the word 'decapitate'. It's not exactly the obvious choice for a placard is it? It's quite long, not very catchy, possibly tricky to spell, a very specific means of execution. Why not dash off a snappy 'Death to Terfs'? I think it's quite telling that it involves the severing of a woman's head from the body, the separation of the thinking, feeling part from the collection of flesh. What's left is a woman's torso with limbs. The more I think about it, I think it's quite a disturbing insight into the mind of the person who wrote it.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 16:41

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 16:24

"This time it's placards
Next time it's not"

https://twitter.com/brianthee_cat/status/1617141512407748612?s=46&t=WYaJey3WcgvQB5L6Rt2SJw

In. Plain. Sight.

I wonder what the number of dodgy signs is gong to be once every part of the crowd the politicians walked through, stood with, looked towards etc had been checked.

Then let's see them pretend they never noticed a single Fucking one.

Waitwhat23 · 22/01/2023 16:46

Excellent tweet by JKR -

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1617155240901414915?s=20&t=H_L92QXiwul0XOyUwdmwpg

ArcaneWireless · 22/01/2023 16:50

So it is doing the cause no favours? And yet everyone who was there didn’t take the signs from their hands and shove them in the bin. (the I EAT TERFS and DECAPITATE TERFS signs - there were probably more signs like these too)

The signs weren’t small. They were seen. And so to me that suggests that the folk it is doing ‘no favours to’ are accepting of the sentiment.

The only folk it is doing no favours to is women.

And no mealie mouthed statement is going to change that. Don’t say it caught attendees by surprise or that they didn’t know it was there or that this sort of thing is rare.

It didn’t.

They did.

It isn’t.

I will wait for the SNP to involve Police Scotland with regards to this hate speech and inciting violence. Because that is what it is.

ArcaneWireless · 22/01/2023 16:54

And look at all their clearly recognisable faces Police Scotland.

In plain sight. Plain as day.

FrancescaContini · 22/01/2023 17:21

CriticalCondition · 22/01/2023 16:41

I've been thinking about this very carefully painted sign which obviously took some time and thought to do and the choice of the word 'decapitate'. It's not exactly the obvious choice for a placard is it? It's quite long, not very catchy, possibly tricky to spell, a very specific means of execution. Why not dash off a snappy 'Death to Terfs'? I think it's quite telling that it involves the severing of a woman's head from the body, the separation of the thinking, feeling part from the collection of flesh. What's left is a woman's torso with limbs. The more I think about it, I think it's quite a disturbing insight into the mind of the person who wrote it.

I totally agree with you. It’s very disturbing.

Helleofabore · 22/01/2023 17:23

I am very surprised really to see any posters who take glee in posting guilt by association posts about feminists posting on this thread.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 22/01/2023 17:45

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 16:41

I wonder what the number of dodgy signs is gong to be once every part of the crowd the politicians walked through, stood with, looked towards etc had been checked.

Then let's see them pretend they never noticed a single Fucking one.

Well, exactly. These placards are very visible in press photos with poor resolution, even when I'm reading newspaper articles on a tiny phone screen.

But people actually there didn't see them? Not even when they were posing for selfies, after having carefully positioned themselves to capture the crowd in the background?

I can see those signs in the background of Ross Greer's selfie, and most importantly, I can see Kirsten Oswald in front of the signs.

If you had gone up to Ross and Patrick just after that selfie and said, "Ross, Patrick, I heard Stewart McDonald, Kirsten Oswald, Kaukab Stewart and Alison Thewliss were here. Can you point them out to me?" how likely it is that they would have had no idea their political colleagues were attending? I'd say zero.

Now ask yourself whether they would have genuinely had no idea where the four were, even though McDonald, Oswald, Stewart and Thewliss were standing near the statue while holding a # X For Independence" banner? The journalists for the National found the group easily enough and filmed them making a pretty speech about standing with trans siblings.

Greer and Harvie (and the other one) would have known full well where Kirsten Oswald et al were. How odd they never glanced over to see how things were going with the press, and never spotted those signs above her head, eh?

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