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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

OJ has a special message for us…

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Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 13:14

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Gave me a laugh over my coffee anyway 😆 does he remind anyone else of arguments with their little brother? ‘You’re going to lose. Why are you hitting yourself’ etc 😂

Interesting he has never ever once engaged with any of the thousands of points as to why gender ideology is indefensible at best and harmful at worst, it’s always just ‘You’re going to lose… tiny minority… section 28’

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 19/01/2023 14:38

He's starting to look very old. He's a horrible little misogynist, so twisted inside by his hatred of women that he has to excise us from our own liberation movement. There is a use for him as a moral arbiter though: if Owen Jones says or does something then to be a decent person you know you should do the exact opposite.

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:38

Brefugee · 19/01/2023 14:29

it's a shame about OJ though, because he started so well with Chavs.

I think he hopped aboard the trans ship without too much thought because it was ‘LGBTQIA’ and he assumes minority = vulnerable and right in every situation. I think on a level he knows gender ideology is a pile of poo, hence not addressing any of the core arguments. But it’s too late to row back to shore now.

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GrrrrAReform · 19/01/2023 14:40

I don't identify as an anti-trans activist so take offence at having this posted on here as a message for 'us'.

I'll go to my grave knowing that I stood up to misogynists and tried to fight for women's rights to equal pay, abortion rights, end female exploitation and encouraged my DD to not put up with sexist crap or be hemmed in by stupid gender stereotypes. And that your sexuality is nothing to do with anyone else and you are free to love and fuck whoever you want and wants you.

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:43

Alltheprettyseahorses · 19/01/2023 14:38

He's starting to look very old. He's a horrible little misogynist, so twisted inside by his hatred of women that he has to excise us from our own liberation movement. There is a use for him as a moral arbiter though: if Owen Jones says or does something then to be a decent person you know you should do the exact opposite.

Although I laughed it was actually a bit of an uncomfortable watch, he doesn’t seem very stable at the moment and just seems like he needs an enormous digital detox and some time with non-political friends or family. He has aged very quickly and is beginning to look really odd, but his mannerisms and tone sound paranoid/unhinged.

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Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:43

GrrrrAReform · 19/01/2023 14:40

I don't identify as an anti-trans activist so take offence at having this posted on here as a message for 'us'.

I'll go to my grave knowing that I stood up to misogynists and tried to fight for women's rights to equal pay, abortion rights, end female exploitation and encouraged my DD to not put up with sexist crap or be hemmed in by stupid gender stereotypes. And that your sexuality is nothing to do with anyone else and you are free to love and fuck whoever you want and wants you.

Oh I know, but that’s how he will see us all and that was the context IYSWIM.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 19/01/2023 14:49

EndlessTea · 19/01/2023 13:34

He really hates women wanting and needing boundaries from men.

Us women shouldn’t flatter ourselves that men want to violate us, should we?

Men - however they identify- are just like Owen, disinterested in women - whatever the impulse or urge.

We’re just so bloody full of ourselves aren’t we?

We just need to step aside and let the men get on with all the important stuff. I mean, it is just tedious for him to have to keep reminding us. Men aren’t interested in us and we need to stop working ourselves up with our silly imaginings. Sigh.

The first 4 words of your post kinda hit the nail on the head!

WallaceinAnderland · 19/01/2023 14:51

Little OJ is neither transgender nor a woman but obviously needs attention.

Hope his blood pressure is ok.

Does anyone remember Stressed Eric 😂

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:51

Ameanstreakamilewide · 19/01/2023 14:49

The first 4 words of your post kinda hit the nail on the head!

He doesn’t have a girlfriend/wife, he doesn’t have children, he isn’t a woman. So it’s very easy for him to pontificate about what should and shouldn’t make women and children feel safe, as he has zero vested interest in them.

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Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:52

WallaceinAnderland · 19/01/2023 14:51

Little OJ is neither transgender nor a woman but obviously needs attention.

Hope his blood pressure is ok.

Does anyone remember Stressed Eric 😂

😂 😂 😂

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Abccde · 19/01/2023 14:52

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:51

He doesn’t have a girlfriend/wife, he doesn’t have children, he isn’t a woman. So it’s very easy for him to pontificate about what should and shouldn’t make women and children feel safe, as he has zero vested interest in them.

He wants a child though.

He will need a woman for that.........

Ameanstreakamilewide · 19/01/2023 14:54

It's nothing to do with his mental health and everything to do with his colossal ego and misogyny.

In a nutshell, he's just a bit of a cunt.

Boiledbeetle · 19/01/2023 14:55

Abccde · 19/01/2023 14:52

He wants a child though.

He will need a woman for that.........

Then he can ask a transwoman, as they are a woman, to help him and see how far that gets him!

I wouldn't buy an outfit for the christening just yet mind, as he'll find it could take a while!

EndlessTea · 19/01/2023 14:58

In a nutshell, he's just a bit of a cunt.

He doesn’t have the warmth and depth to even be a bit of a cunt.

There’s something unformed and under-cooked about him.

AutumnCrow · 19/01/2023 15:00

Men who currently need (IMO) interventions all seem to be in the 34 - 38 year old bracket, and I include Harry of the Sussex in that. In fact it's tragic that Owen Jones does not share a star sign with Harry, although I believe that Russell Lloyd-Moyle does, so there's that to rejoice about, because astrology makes about as much sense as gender woo.

Adrian Harrop is 34.

PoIIyPandemonium · 19/01/2023 15:01

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FrancescaContini · 19/01/2023 15:05

What a knobhead. Has he even started shaving yet?

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 15:08

FrancescaContini · 19/01/2023 15:05

What a knobhead. Has he even started shaving yet?

I’m sure there’s a puberty blocker joke to be made there somewhere…

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potniatheron · 19/01/2023 15:10

The reason why OJ is getting visibly angirer and angrier is becaise his side os losing and he knows it. He will never return to the heady heights of 2017 when Corbynism was riding high, 'trans' 'rights' were being swallowed unquestionably and he was regarded as THE go-to tlaking head on mainstream media for these issues. Millions reading his tweets, hundreds donating to his patreon. Multi-book deal.

Now what has he got? Sanity has returned to the Labour Party and Starmer has privately made it clear that he and Novara Media are no longer regarded as outreiders or allies. Mick Lynch and other high profile Union leaders want to do their own thing and have no interest in sharing a platform with him. The trans carapace has not survived contact with reality with all of OJ's fave institutions, Mermaids, Tavistock, Stonewall, and the whole legislative edifice crumbling. No new book deal since This Land bombed spectacularly. His LTR has just ended (and I do feel for him there).

This isn't about his prinicples it's about his career. It's dying not with a bang but a whimper. So little OJ casts around for someone to blame and, instead of doing the right thing and looking in the mirror, he decides it's all the fault of those horrible old hags - the TERFs.

Typical response of mediocre male failures for millennia - when things go wrong, it's women's fault!

LadyOfTheCanyon · 19/01/2023 15:11

He's a nasty little misogynist, who as a gay man thinks that he's oppressed more and therefore can say what he wants.

I really enjoyed Chavs at the time. I now regret ever having given him any money or attention at all.

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 15:13

potniatheron · 19/01/2023 15:10

The reason why OJ is getting visibly angirer and angrier is becaise his side os losing and he knows it. He will never return to the heady heights of 2017 when Corbynism was riding high, 'trans' 'rights' were being swallowed unquestionably and he was regarded as THE go-to tlaking head on mainstream media for these issues. Millions reading his tweets, hundreds donating to his patreon. Multi-book deal.

Now what has he got? Sanity has returned to the Labour Party and Starmer has privately made it clear that he and Novara Media are no longer regarded as outreiders or allies. Mick Lynch and other high profile Union leaders want to do their own thing and have no interest in sharing a platform with him. The trans carapace has not survived contact with reality with all of OJ's fave institutions, Mermaids, Tavistock, Stonewall, and the whole legislative edifice crumbling. No new book deal since This Land bombed spectacularly. His LTR has just ended (and I do feel for him there).

This isn't about his prinicples it's about his career. It's dying not with a bang but a whimper. So little OJ casts around for someone to blame and, instead of doing the right thing and looking in the mirror, he decides it's all the fault of those horrible old hags - the TERFs.

Typical response of mediocre male failures for millennia - when things go wrong, it's women's fault!

Possibly the most insightful post on MN I have ever read. How accurate!

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Ohyoudodoyou · 19/01/2023 15:16

potniatheron · 19/01/2023 15:10

The reason why OJ is getting visibly angirer and angrier is becaise his side os losing and he knows it. He will never return to the heady heights of 2017 when Corbynism was riding high, 'trans' 'rights' were being swallowed unquestionably and he was regarded as THE go-to tlaking head on mainstream media for these issues. Millions reading his tweets, hundreds donating to his patreon. Multi-book deal.

Now what has he got? Sanity has returned to the Labour Party and Starmer has privately made it clear that he and Novara Media are no longer regarded as outreiders or allies. Mick Lynch and other high profile Union leaders want to do their own thing and have no interest in sharing a platform with him. The trans carapace has not survived contact with reality with all of OJ's fave institutions, Mermaids, Tavistock, Stonewall, and the whole legislative edifice crumbling. No new book deal since This Land bombed spectacularly. His LTR has just ended (and I do feel for him there).

This isn't about his prinicples it's about his career. It's dying not with a bang but a whimper. So little OJ casts around for someone to blame and, instead of doing the right thing and looking in the mirror, he decides it's all the fault of those horrible old hags - the TERFs.

Typical response of mediocre male failures for millennia - when things go wrong, it's women's fault!

please, please, please - Owen read this. We gotcha number.

FrancescaContini · 19/01/2023 15:16

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 15:08

I’m sure there’s a puberty blocker joke to be made there somewhere…

Yes, there probably is but he’s not even worth the few seconds’ effort required to think one up.

Circumferences · 19/01/2023 15:19

Many people make that mistake, that minority group = vulnerable group.
Which is absurd, because a billionaire is a minority. A white person living in Northern Africa is a minority.

It's gaslighting that TW are a "vulnerable minority" they're not. They become the top 1% of women, earning all the world records and all the high paid jobs that women can't obtain.

Beowulfa · 19/01/2023 15:20

It is really very easy to hate older women, especially boring frumpy non-celebs who are just not fuckable or special.

Also very easy to dismiss females who inconveniently disrupt your self-righteous beliefs; ie the vulnerable girls of Rotherham who made Asian men look bad, and the annoying partygoers of Cologne who made immigrant men look bad.

Owen is very good at the easy stuff.

FrancescaContini · 19/01/2023 15:22

@Beowulfa excellent points especially use of “inconvenient”.