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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

OJ has a special message for us…

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Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 13:14

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1616008459958231040/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1616008459958231040&currentTweetUser=OwenJones84

Gave me a laugh over my coffee anyway 😆 does he remind anyone else of arguments with their little brother? ‘You’re going to lose. Why are you hitting yourself’ etc 😂

Interesting he has never ever once engaged with any of the thousands of points as to why gender ideology is indefensible at best and harmful at worst, it’s always just ‘You’re going to lose… tiny minority… section 28’

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DialSquare · 19/01/2023 13:41

What an amazing coincidence as I've got a special message for him too. Unfortunately, I can't post it here.

nilsmousehammer · 19/01/2023 13:43

Deleted before anyone could stick it on the fridge with all the other blobby splashes of self expression! What a shame.

EndlessTea · 19/01/2023 13:43

Is it the end of this video?

I can’t help thinking he’s been binging on KJK videos with the cadence and the talk about going to win/lose..

PoisonCrystal · 19/01/2023 13:45

🤣 Random man rants on the internet about random people who apparently rant on the internet.

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 13:49

we won’t lose because male people can never be female and female people can never be male, no matter how lovely they are, no matter how many laws are passed to let them falsify official documents, no matter what drugs they take, no matter how much plastic surgery they have, no matter how much they lie to themselves or to others or insist that everyone else validates their current wishful thinking.

THIS 🥂

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Whereareyourshoes · 19/01/2023 13:49

OJ - please try and do something other than spouting hate towards people who have a different opinion to you. Why does one side have to lose? Why can we not have honest conversations and look for solutions which need the needs of all vulnerable groups? Remember them? Women, children, disabled people, elderly people,…?

donquixotedelamancha · 19/01/2023 13:54

He's not talking to us. He says he's talking to 'anti trans activists'. He goes on about individuals who spend their whole lives obsessed by trans people and trying to 'wish them away'.

That's not what feminism is. It's not what the vast, vast bulk of people who oppose self-ID want. In fact, I've never actually met anyone who thinks that.

I would suggest that TYOJ is just creating imaginary enemies to scare his fans and promote his brand as the saviour of trans people from evil women.

donquixotedelamancha · 19/01/2023 13:58

If we're definitely going to lose, why does he bother acknowledging us?

People who think life is about beating others have to have enemies, real or imagined, to 'win' against.

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:10

I’m not even convinced it’s about ‘protecting trans people’ with him any more. He just seems incensed that a load of uncool middle aged women (and of course other demographics but that’s the main one) disagree with him, and feels he can browbeat them into submission.

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Brefugee · 19/01/2023 14:10

That's not what feminism is. It's not what the vast, vast bulk of people who oppose self-ID want. In fact, I've never actually met anyone who thinks that.

thank you. This.

Whereareyourshoes · 19/01/2023 14:13

Does he not get exhausted by constantly looking for enemies? Is it possible for him to consider that people who disagree with him are also human beings? I’m really fed up with the aggression from men like OJ and LRM. They’re as intolerant as a number of religious extremists.

IceyDicey · 19/01/2023 14:16

I didn’t find the tweet, what did he say?

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:16

The ‘pro self ID’ lobby is mainly driven by white gay men that aren’t even trans - Owen Jones, Adrian Harrop, Peter Tatchell, Crispin Blunt… a fact that isn’t lost on most of us…

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Ohyoudodoyou · 19/01/2023 14:17

OJ -a 'journalist' who constantly gurns and takes off his shirt for likes. Odd behaviour for an adult.
Does he have many awards for journalism?

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 14:17

IceyDicey · 19/01/2023 14:16

I didn’t find the tweet, what did he say?

Literally just ‘you’re going to lose’ but many times, with a pretty weird look on his face. If I was a family member I would be worried for his MH.

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Abccde · 19/01/2023 14:20

Why can't he say woman?

Why does he not make it clear who his target audience is?

Although I would be surprised if there were many woman who were actually anti-trans. But to OJ and the mob, anyone who dissents in any way, is anti trans.

Pathetic little child who never got told no.

EndlessTea · 19/01/2023 14:23

spend their whole lives obsessed by trans people

I don’t actually believe in ‘trans’ people. I just see it as a turn of phrase. There are men, there are women, there are men who want to be (what they imagine it is to be) women and there are women who want to be (what they imagine it is to be) men. Still only men and women though.

I’ll hold my hands up and say that a great deal of my thought and time is taken up trying to push back against ideas I do not believe in and which have no evidence base, but that are being taken on and coercively pushed upon me and my family through the media, law, schools and education, HR, etc, etc. I really could do without it.

This Peter Pan fool hasn’t got the maturity to grasp it.

SinnerBoy · 19/01/2023 14:25

OJ.

Odious Jerk?

KateBalesCardi · 19/01/2023 14:26

Ranting about 'our' (I'm assuming he means MN, he usually does) hatred and bile.......whilst dripping with hatred and bile, no irony there at all is there? Grin

Brefugee · 19/01/2023 14:29

it's a shame about OJ though, because he started so well with Chavs.

EndlessTea · 19/01/2023 14:30

hatred and bile = fear for your safety and wanting to protect your kids, disclosing traumatic incidents which informed that fear, etc.

SquirrelSoShiny · 19/01/2023 14:31

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 13:49

we won’t lose because male people can never be female and female people can never be male, no matter how lovely they are, no matter how many laws are passed to let them falsify official documents, no matter what drugs they take, no matter how much plastic surgery they have, no matter how much they lie to themselves or to others or insist that everyone else validates their current wishful thinking.

THIS 🥂

🥂🥂🥂

Ohyoudodoyou · 19/01/2023 14:33

I've just watched it now - he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
He is the one on twitter all the time. Most women I know don't even have an account. We are busy sorting kids, working, running homes, caring for our elders and navigating the tricky waters of being a woman in hard economic times, and dangerous times for us:

"Violence against women: the statistics
Research shows gender-based violence affects women and girls in every society around the world.

Globally 81,000 women and girls were killed in 2020, around 47,000 of them (58%) died at the hands of an intimate partner or a family member. This is an average of one death every 11 minutes."

We can keep talking to our friends in real life and coming on here for support, it is growing support too. Quiet and dignified.
Let him keep doing his thing on twitter, that message and how he looks in the video is enough to do more harm to his professional integrity than anything.

Sparklybutold · 19/01/2023 14:38

Ooo this was quite funny. He really is a very self important wanker.

GizaBiza · 19/01/2023 14:38

What an angry little sausage.