Non-binary biological boy at DD's girls' school: toilets

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Hello, a non-binary biological boy has started at DD's girls' school.

Are there any regulations around what toilets they need to use? I just wondered what the actual legal position on this is. Thank you.

A boy.

Yeah got that but what is non binary ?

If he's got a penis he's a boy surely.

A biological boy who believes he is neither male nor female...

A boy who says he doesn't feel like a boy and he doesn't feel like a girl.

He's male,he's a boy.

Children don't seek attention?

But you cant just stamp your feet and erode non binary.

Why not? Twenty years ago (I m being generous here) , no one had heard of non binary, still less of children ‘identifying’ as a meaningless and obviously biologically impossible category.
My vote would definitely be for stamping my foot and not merely eroding but eradicating this from under age children.

A boy who says he doesn't feel like a boy and he doesn't feel like a girl.

How does he know what either of those feels like?

He knows how he feels. If he is a juvenile human male, then however he feels - brave, caring, sporty, arty, unsociable etc - is what being a boy feels like.

Go to the press!! Make noise! Head straight in to the school. Find out the facts asap. I would be livid and would be moving schools without giving a terms notice.

If theres really a boy there wouldn’t parents complain? I feel like everyone I know would be up in arms if their daughter was at a girls private school and they let a boy in. My daughter will be at a girls private school and I certainly would be! There are masses of coed schools around, go to one of them!!

No, because I've been on here long enough to know how that would end - multiple responses from multiple posters and I think what one would refer to you as a pile on. And I know I will get the textbook ah so you dont know otherwise you would tell us, but that's standard. When you know you have a forum of people who believe it's made up and nonsense, youd be daft to believe youl be the one that they are remotely interested in.

As it happens though, that isnt the issue at heart.

I know you disagree as do the vast majority of people on here, but I do respect their right to identify how they identify and it is wrong to claim non binary etc doesnr exist, and appalling posts about attention seeking and bad parenting.

You're preaching to the choir about the school, I domt believe this child should be there.

I do however respect their right to identify as non binary.

Rarely without a cause.

I was however referring to the vicious manner grown adults are talking about a child.

@BackT could you explain to me how a biologically born female is of risk to your DD? I am or course ignoring ridiculous comparisons to dinosaurs.

Perhaps they should look into the reasons behind this particular child's attention seeking and get him the help he needs.

This threads exemplifies why queer theorists are so desperate to involve children in sex / identity change. Because anyone who dares to challenge what's happening is being "unkind to children" or criticising parents. It's using children - especially other people's children when they should be allowed to grow and develop in peace in safety from queer theorists selling them the lie that sex is not binary. Using children in this way allows people to frame those challenging this nonsense as "vicious" and uncaring.

That's why schools have been so relentlessly targeted as children are impressionable and will believe fantasies if there are no grounded adults present to highlight the problems. Parents (and other sceptical adults) are intimidated from challenging because as shown here, it's then framed as an attack on a confused child.

You know attention seeking isnt even a term we use anymore in child services/education/mental health?

This is absolute nonsense.

Presenting yourselves as grounded adults and the only possible people to save these poor souls without being snatched into the jaws of 'gender theorists ' is utterly delusional.

People are entitled to their opinion when it comes to this subject just as much as you are.

Nope. This thread is about children and schools. So when a poster states :
"I was however referring to the vicious manner grown adults are talking about a child" it is evidently a weak attempt to stop people from commenting.
It's a technique that transactivists use all the time and why vulnerable children are such a useful tool for them.

That's a shame.

In the real word, the one outside the copy and paste narrative of MN, there may be people who do't like the use of the word "attention seeking" or the suggestion its down to bad parenting. The fact that this is such an alien viewpoint that it must be simply used to manipulate vulnerable children and can't possibly be the viewpoint of a person different to yours is genuinely alarming.

My apologies. I assumed if you were going to debate a topic in regards to children you might want to be on board with the updated terminology in schools as to actually know what you're talking about.

@MrsOvertonsWindow it's also not a bout stopping people from commenting. I do't have massively dissimilar views when it comes to schools. However if I find language vicious (which is what I said, not unkind) about parents or children, I have the right to say that. Again the fact you don't think so is concerning.

Is find claiming to work in child mental health services and pushing this dangerous agenda? If so I'd urge her to look to her codes of practice and ensure she keeps up to date. Allowing children control over adults in this way is not actually helpful to them. Hence the term grounded adults.

Any ideology that leads people to feel so unhappy with their body dues to stereotypes about personality that they are encouraged to take non medically necessary hormones that stunt development and lower life expectancy should examine their pra time.

Apology accepted.

'We'?

What is your role?