Complications from trans surgery!

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I know it's a daily mail article but I can't help thinking. We only ever hear positive stories but the figures tell us this. I really hope the men and woman are getting the support they need from these complications. 🥺

Half of trans surgery patients suffer pain, sexual issues years later mol.im/a/11629421 via dailym.ai/android

To be fair if the NHS are doing it I tend to trust the NHS

Elaine Miller is very knowledgeable and articulate on this. she is an obstetric physiotherapist and has done a lot of research. She has made some very good you tube videos.

www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market

'The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was valued at USD 1.9 billion in 2021 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 11.23% from 2022 to 2030. The rising incidences of gender dysphoria and the increasing number of people opting for gender confirmation surgeries are expected to boost the growth during the forecast period. According to a study conducted by Cedars Sinai in June 2020, approximately 78% of transgender males experienced gender dysphoria by the age of 7. The mean age to experience gender dysphoria was less in transgender males, which is about 6.2 years.

Sex reassignment surgery is gaining popularity among the young transgender population in the U.S., as it helps people with gender dysphoria transition to their self-identified gender. According to an article published in the New York Times, around 1.4% & 1.3% of young people aged 13 to 17 and 18 to 24, respectively, are transgender in the U.S., accounting for only 0.5% of total adults.

The increasing number of sex reassignment surgeries in the U.S. is expected to propel the growth of the industry during the forecast period. According to the 2020 Plastic Surgery Statistics by the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS), a 15% rise in breast or chest surgical procedures was reported in transgender male patients from 2019 to 2020.

The improving reimbursement scenario is also anticipated to positively impact the market growth during the forecast period. Insurance providers such as Aetna and Unicare provide insurance for necessary surgical procedures, such as salpingo-oophorectomy, hysterectomy, orchiectomy, or ovariectomy. In the U.S., around 152,000 transgender individuals are enrolled in Medicaid and only 69,000 among them have access to gender-affirming care coverage under state law.'

Ah!

Yes I did.

So sad MN is swallowing Kool Aid and meanwhile I’ve seen them let stand comments calling people cunts

www.technavio.com/report/gender-reassignment-surgery-market-industry-analysis

'The gender reassignment surgery market is estimated to grow at a CAGR of 10.73% between 2022 and 2027. The size of the market is forecast to increase by USD 321.48 million. The growth of the market depends on serval factors, including the increase in the number of people opting for sex change surgeries globally, favorable government policies, and increasing insurance coverage for gender reassignment surgical procedures.'

This. Over and over again.

As Helen Joyce has pleaded, we just want to see children and young people who have deep and painful difficulty conforming to oppressive gender stereotypes and roles, getting the health care they need. Proper therapy would be a good start.

This!!

Ever heard of Thalidomide, vaginal mesh or the epilepsy drug that causes severe birth defects?

www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

This report on market growth references Scotland's new law, suggesting this will 'augment industry progress'.

It's my understanding that you have to be 18 in the UK to have surgery. Not sure about other countries.

Double mastectomies are performed on a few very young teenagers who identify as male, in North America, not here. 17 is the youngest I've heard of here. Genital surgery on a minor is fortunately rare. Mermais ex-CEO Susie Green's child was 16 on the day of the op, and Thailand changed its laws as a consequence of the publicity following that case. However, puberty blockers followed by cross-hormone 'therapy' often starts much earlier.

They expected rainbows and glitter, they expected to hatch like butterflies. They think the people telling them this are on the right side of history. They been told than anyone saying anything different is a bigot and a terf, who hates transpeople and wants them to die.

In all due respect wth did these people expect?? There are enough risks with normal routine surgery. Never mind creating a blooming vagina in a place where a vagina is definitely not meant to go!

Many of them are very young, naive and often vulnerable. They have been cheered along for their 'brave' embracing of their trans identity. They have been told, by medical professionals and other authority figures that this is a great path for them.

And being biologically illiterate is very in right now.

Why are they calling it a vaginoplasty? No surgeon can create a vagina - what these men have received is basically a surgical fistula, with all the inevitable problems that come with it.

Some may say it's just semantics, but it seems to me that, whenever other body parts are involved - whether for current surgery or hoped future developments - what the patient is/would be left with is always referred to as a prosthetic arm or leg, an artificial pancreas, electrolarynx, mechanical heart etc.

Whenever it's surgery to replace the function of something that should be there, but isn't working/present, nobody is under any illusion that it's an artificial organ; but when it comes to trans surgery, it's always spoken of as creating a vagina or penis. I can't help wondering if this is deliberately done to minimise what is actually being done and to give the patient a wholly unrealistic idea and grossly false expectations.

Scotland sends 16 and 17 year olds to England for mastectomies.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scottish-doctors-approved-breast-removal-for-51-trans-teenagers-qvkmz8r2c

To be fair if the NHS are doing it I tend to trust the NHS

Christ, seriously?

The naivety 🤦‍♀️

No doubt, but it shouldn't be.

People need to know what they are advocating for when they vote in favour of trans health care and abolition of conversion therapy,

Which in the case of trans kids is talking therapy to see if these surgical interventions can be avoided.

There is footage of a surgeon in the US admitting that the youngest person they had performed "top"surgery on was 12 years old.

The Daily Mail, perhaps other news sources, stalks these boards perhaps they can get an article or two from this before it's deleted.

This is going to end up as everyone else's fault, not the people who have gone through the surgery and assume you can have a perfectly normal working vagina fashioned out a penis. Because you can't. But these poor people have been duped by Dr's and it's not really their responsibility, it's everyone else's......

An 18 year old may have a far worse future than that animation shows. That animation is the procedure if the patient has full-sized, mature genitalia. Children who progress to surgery at 18 have often been on blockers throughout their teenage years, meaning their bodies don't grow, meaning there is not enough flesh to create any kind of simulacrum of a vagina. The workaround is using bowel tissue.

One of the first patients to be a guinea pig for this died. The teenager was 18 years old.

quote from abstract

We present a case of an 18-year-old transgender woman, who underwent laparoscopic intestinal vaginoplasty as vaginal reconstruction, and subsequently developed septic shock and multiple organ failure on the basis of an extended-spectrum β-lactamase-producing Escherichia coli. A severe progression of the necrotizing fasciitis was lethal, despite repeated surgical debridement, intravenous antibiotic use, and supportive care at the intensive care unit.

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Standard penile inversion surgery was not feasible due to penoscrotal hypoplasia, which resulted from previous treatment with puberty suppressing hormones

archive.is/www.jpagonline.org/article/S1083-3188(16)30174-7/fulltext

It is a growing tragedy, and the fact that people are being offered these surgeries without evidence that the benefits outweigh the risks is a scandal.

It's the complete lack of understanding of the surgeries that concerns me. I've seen posts from teenage girls who really seem to believe that if they have their breasts removed and then change their minds they can take oestrogen and they'll grow back because boys can take oestrogen and grow breasts so it will work the same for a girl who has had all their breast tissue removed.

The idea that skinning all of the flesh from a persons arm, turning it into a sausage shaped piece of flesh and attaching it to their groin will result in a functional penis and attractive penis is insanity.

Or that inverting a penis and creating a deliberate wound that needs to be regularly dilated to prevent it from healing will create a functional and pain free vagina.

What kind of information are they being provided, how realistic and clear are the surgeons being before asking for consent?

I do hope this thread isn't deleted.

If everything in the gender confirmation surgery world is ethical and above board then there is no reason we can't discuss it.

But these poor people have been duped by Dr's and it's not really their responsibility, it's everyone else's

As many of them are very young, vulnerable, with serious mental health issues, we owe them a better duty of care than we're giving them right now.