Complications from trans surgery!

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I know it's a daily mail article but I can't help thinking. We only ever hear positive stories but the figures tell us this. I really hope the men and woman are getting the support they need from these complications. 🥺

Half of trans surgery patients suffer pain, sexual issues years later mol.im/a/11629421 via dailym.ai/android

For anyone who doesn't want to go through the Daily Mail here's a link to the original research paper - it's open access.
doi.org/10.1002/nau.25132

When grown adults are choosing this when there is plenty of information out there stating the high risk, they can do what they like.

Is there though? Where is it? Can I read it? Because everything I have read either uses medical jargon and needs a lot of medical background to understand or it's been so fucking coy .

If there's a consumer guide to this in everyday language then I would really love to know!

Presumably they are making an informed decision.

A million scam artists can tell you that being over 18 doesn't automatically make anyone fully informed and able to make a good decision.

There has to be a point where adults are allowed to make their own decisions, as long as they are fully informed of the risks.

Please point me at the "Which?" guide that fully informs everyone of the risks

Recent WPATH World Professional Association for Transgender Health guidelines, which claim to be the international standard for trans healthcare, have been carefully written to (a) maximise the amount of surgery that (US) health insurance will pay for and (b) minimise risk of (US) doctors being sued and (c) do not contain a section on medical ethics.

gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/94-wpaths-bizarre-8th-standards-of-care

The NHS do when deciding what to fund - they’ll give you a nose job if you can’t breathe or broke it, not if you think it’s ugly and want a cute button nose. Clearly they’re not always right either though!

That article made me feel sick to my stomach.

Autistic girls are vulnerable and are being led down this path.

I am the parent of an autistic girl who has been told she must be trans because she has sensory issues which mean she feels more comfortable in boys clothes. Doesn't like make up and doesn't have the social communication skills that other girls her age has so doesn't do the normal chit chat associated with girls.

I am lucky (or perhaps she is) because she believes me when I've told her there is no wrong way to be a girl.

Many autistic girls her age now identify as boys or non binary. Their families have been led to believe that puberty blockers and double mastectomies are the appropriate treatment for autism.

Agencies like CAMHS are complicit in this. They explore gender (or at least they used to ) then signpost to Mermaid.

This is coercion and it's fucking appalling that vulnerable autistic girls are queing up to be sterilised as a result.

Thank you for this.
I'm sorry you and your DD had to go through that.

In some areas of England and all of Wales the NHS will fund the following for trans patients :

• breast enlargement (rare but has happened)
• laser body hair removal
• voice therapy (to sound more female)
• vaginoplasty
• orchiectomy (removal of testes)
• intestinal vaginoplasty (using a piece of large intestine to create the ‘vaginal’ cavity
• vulvoplasty
• penectomy
• clitoroplasty

for female born trans patients

• phalloplasty (extremely high complication rate)
• double mastectomy (with or without repositioning of nipples)
• metoidioplasty
• hysterectomy
• vaginectomy
• urethroplasty
• glansplasty

There are quite a few more. All can be done on an 18 yr old who has ‘lived in a gender role in keeping with your gender identity’ for 12 months. All are medically unnecessary and not available to people without a trans identity.

For example, in some areas, women with PCOS causing excess facial hair cannot get permanent hair removal on the NHS.

Women under approx 30 cannot obtain a hysterectomy even for chronic pain because they might change their mind about having babies. Yet a female born trans person can do this at 18.

I'm afraid that's why I just draw the line at no male people in female spaces. More than happy to see third spaces, though. We just need to hang on to single-sex provision.

I agree, we have experimented with allowing some males into female spaces because we thought it was a kindness but now we have males abusing the system it's no longer safe for women to be kind so we have to have a clear and unambiguous line, no males in female spaces.

I do have sympathy for the TW who were just getting on with their life after transition but I can't throw women under the bus because their movement has been co-opted by incredibly bad faith actors.

Its unfair to accuse women of causing this shit show, we have given the experiment a decent go and it hasn't worked out well for us.

And if you really want to be really horrified look up a certain well known child trans person who’s mother told them
if they wouldn’t do it, she would.

Teenagers who choose to go down this route are often autistic, often gay, often have a history of abuse or neglect.

All are told by someone that being gender nonconforming means they are the opposite sex, and many organisations will affirm this stance.

Some will go on as adults to opt for surgery. The risks of these are often hidden or downplayed by the online communities encouraging these vulnerable people. They are not making a free choice with all information available to them. Many photos have been shared of young women posing with their mastectomy scars, alongside arms, stomach and legs covered in self harm scars - these are not healthy young women making rational choices, these are deeply mentally ill youngsters who need far better support than they are getting, instead of the disturbing validation and affirmation tgg by et get from all round.

Schools, drs, MH orgs, charities (especially Mermaids and NAS) should all be stopped from encouraging young people to transition and see it as a positive thing. For some it may be, for many the euphoria and ease from mental issues is temporary, for some it’s immediately apparent that it was a mistake.

There was a transwoman in USA last week giving a lecture on pushing forward with uterine transplants for transwomen. They worked with children in a gender services department of a hospital.

The idea was cavadar donations of wombs in the future would be supplemented by live womb donations from young TransMen.

So coaching young teens that they are 100% trans and to have hysterectomies and donating those organs to men.

It sound like it can't be real right? But sadly it is. Children seem to be disposable to do many involved in this area of medicine

@Aposterhasnoname , that was a particularly vile moment in a reality show of vile moments

@TheClitterati That's truly vile and impossible these men will end up with a rotting, decaying alien organ pointlessly inside them and that will probably kill them and young women will have essentially had their organs harvested by fetishists. Truly vile and inhumane.

Women under approx 30 cannot obtain a hysterectomy even for chronic pain because they might change their mind about having babies. Yet a female born trans person can do this at 18. ouch that's hit me hard. What a double standard.

ouch that's hit me hard. What a double standard.

Also the demands for hormone therapy for TW as a matter of urgency, when actual women who genuinely need hormone replacement therapy can't access it.

It being America, these young women will probably be told that their 'gender affirming care' will be done for free or at reduced cost if they agree to donate their uterus.

Lots of business donate to various charities. Doesn’t mean they are safe. Wasn’t there a children’s one in London got shut down pretty quickly once certain facts came to light.

Yeah, I think Abigail Thorn a trans youtuber said in a statement that menopausal "cis women wanted HRT but that trans women NEEDED HRT" and even in the midst of the current NHS crisis continues to centre ans priorities the needs of trans people over trans people over everyone else.

Whatever your views on trans people, this needs to be talked about more.

The side effects listed as minor like problems urinating and sexual dysfunction - that would probably be an acceptable if the genitals had been operated on because of penile cancer, or trauma in an accident, but this is serious surgery being done on healthy body parts!

IMO there needs to be more awareness raised on the issues with this operation and at least some attempts to help the trans person to accept their genitals with therapy.

IMO there needs to be more awareness raised on the issues with this operation and at least some attempts to help the trans person to accept their genitals with therapy.

The problem is this view marks you out as a humungous transphobe (not by me obviously, but the activists).

Nothing but total and complete affirmation is tolerated.

Until recently the CEO of Mermaids, the charity that everyone refers kids to [currently under investigation by the charities commission], was a woman who:
had a son who played with girls toys, had a father that didn't want a gay son, took the toys away and only gave them back when the boy said 'I'm a girl' in order to get his toys back, gained puberty blockers and hormones online from the USA, gave them to her son, socially transitioned him, took him aged 15 to Thailand to have his penis removed and a vagina constructed, laughed along with his grandmother about how the blockers gave him such a tiny penis that the doctors had little to work with.

That's who everyone has been referring their kids to for years.

She literally transed away the gay. The videos of her TED talk and the one with her and his grandmother laughing about his tiny penis are all on you tube.

I know a plastic surgeon in the NHS. Last time I saw her I asked what surgery she and her colleagues do the most of and she said that for the past few years it had been surgeries related to transitioning. Imagine the amount of NHS funding that is taken up by this, not to mention vast salaries in every trust for “diversity and inclusion” officers and rainbow badges and lanyards.

It’s just mad. So if you’re a childfree woman and can’t get sterilised because you might change your mind on children, just say you’re a transman! Then they’ll do it no probs.

It's been really eye-opening and really sad reading some of these replies.
There isn't much awareness about this topic at all.
I take back my comment I made before. It was insensitive and made out of ignorance. Thanks to all for your input.

One's mother was filmed laughing that the puberty blockers hadn't left the surgeons much to work with. Laughing that these, arguably, unnecessary drugs had stunted her son's penis.

Oh, that will be former head of Mermaids, Susie Green, who recently had to step down as her charity employed people associated with advocating for paedophilia.

Mermaids exists in its current form because Susie Green needed to justify her barbaric actions towards her son. Doubling down doesn't even begin to cover it.