Complications from trans surgery!

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I know it's a daily mail article but I can't help thinking. We only ever hear positive stories but the figures tell us this. I really hope the men and woman are getting the support they need from these complications. 🥺

Half of trans surgery patients suffer pain, sexual issues years later mol.im/a/11629421 via dailym.ai/android

I've just researched and they do it 3 times a day until they become regularly sexually active. Let me find the link

www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsurg.2021.639430/full

WARNING. There are pictures.

Reddit post from a mother asking for advice.

Self harm and medical malpractice on a huge scale carried out on the most intimate parts of the body.

I agree with a PP: whatever happened to the Hippocratic oath?

this is brutal.

Just looked at the pictures. Jesus wept. The surgeon who agreed to carrying out the procedure shown must have abandoned his / her conscience entirely.

Thanks for posting this . I have been following Chloe. She actually is very brave .

One of the complaints that we hear is that transwomen find it difficult to find partners. Most straight men don't want to have sex with another man. The first transwoman I knew ended up on the fringes of the sex industry in Soho for a couple of years after GRS but has since boasted of being proudly celibate for the last 20 years.

I also think the impression given in the article above that surgery creates a functioning vagina is really insulting to the marvels of female anatomy. Our vaginas are muscular, flexible, self-lubricating and self-cleaning. Our clitorises are amazing and extend far beyond what can be seen. Men really don't appreciate the marvels of the female body. They think we're just holes to be penetrated, don't they?

It’s why so many trans women don’t have surgery ( which is often the. Held against them because they are still ‘male bodied)

Why is it 'held against them' - any more than it is 'held against' standard men for having male bodies? It's just immutable fact. Nobody holds it against a cat that it doesn't have the body of a dog or vice versa.

You can identify as whoever/whatever you like, but it doesn't change anything biologically; why would it?

A deliberately othering thread under the guise of caring. The level of transphobia on here is gross.

Where exactly is ttw transphobia?

why don’t you want the reality of these surgeries to be known?

Is there anything that isn't Transphobia in your opinion?

I cannot agree with you that being appalled with idea that over half the people who have SRS are left permanently damaged is transphobic.

Or that it's transphobic to discuss concerns about whether anyone can adequately consent to a surgery that has a 1 in 2 chance of leaving you in physical pain for years if not forever.

Do you believe that this is being made clear to all surgical patients for these operations before they give consent?

If yes, does that raise any concern for their mental health in your mind? The idea that a person who is physically well, not in ill health, not in physical pain, would voluntarily embark on a surgery that has a 55% chance of causing them pain, a 34% chance of preventing them being able to have sexual function, a 23% chance of causing urinary incontinence. What should the requirement for psychiatric support be before surgery to give confidence that a person willing to take this massive risk is competent to make that decision?

If we are already seeing complications just a few years down the line with quite young people, what on earth is going to happen over the next few decades, with an ever growing number of people requiring more and more extensive repair work to patch them up as they age? In a society where the "aging society" process will continue to put more and more pressures on medical services anyway even for reasonably healthy people?

Modifying your body in any significant and permanent way always brings the question of "How is this going to work as you age? Will repairs have to be redone? Will the repair/re-work surgery itself cause other problems, which also need to be fixed? How risky will the surgery be on an increasingly aged body?"

Those of us who have tried to bloody well ask these questions - like "Look, this is moving awfully fast. Could we all just please slow down and DISCUSS the trans issue first, before diving in and sending a bunch of young kids down the trans track?" - have been demonized and it's just so fucking frustrating to watch the potential problems finally being openly discussed now.

I follow a Canadian transexual male (that's how they describe themself) on Twitter. They say they were rushed into surgery years ago and now have regrets and complications. They are now seeking voluntary euthanasia due to this. It's very sad.

twitter.com/duchess_elle/status/1595197177735032832

You think it's caring to encourage young people to have irreversible surgery which may harm them and leave them with lifelong health problems without giving them this information before they decide? I think that is horrifically unethical. Don't kid yourself you care of you think this is OK.

The major complications (Grade III-IV) included urethral stenosis (20.5 percent), urethral fistula (1.9 percent), intraoperative rectal injury (1.9 percent), necrosis (primarily along the wound edges) (1.4 percent), and rectovaginal fistula (0.9 percent).

Christ. Fistulas are dreadful things and often very hard or impossible to repair properly. And these are NOT small figures.

There is a Canadian transwoman on twitter (whom I like), who posted about approaching medics regarding Canada's Medical Assistance In Dying program in the future. They've had all the procedures, including vaginoplasty. They posted that they didn't want to "get old in this body".

Doesn't that make you feel sick with dread for the current generation?

That thread is devastating. There are replies from two people who lost friends to suicide due to transition regret. What are we doing to people?

@KimberleyClark Natal females who take T are much more likely to have children with autism. This may be because their uterus parent has undiagnosed or diagnosed autism. It also leads credence to Baton-Cohen’s theory that excess T may be one cause of autism. Saying the politically correct uterus parent disgusts me. Mothers have babies.
Bottom surgery for natal females can be done with thigh muscle tissue. The cosmetic results are terrible. Loss of continence and orgasms is common. It costs a much as a decent condominium at $ 300k. There are much cheaper and better ways to impress potential romantic partners.

Canada's assisted dying is a whole other shit show. I'm not in the least religious but this, and transitioning, are stark examples of the road to hell being paved with good intentions. I believe they wish to extend it to children, I hope I'm wrong.

A deliberately othering thread under the guise of caring. The level of transphobia on here is gross.

If we were transphobic, we wouldn't care less about the serious lasting damage that many trans-identifying people are blindly led into having done to their body through their misplaced trust in the surgeons who perform it.

You'll be telling us next that all of us who have ever grabbed our children away from situations that could have irreparably hurt or even killed them are 'child-phobic' i.e. we only want to prevent them from coming to lasting harm because we hate them?!?!?!

Can you please be a bit more specific by providing examples of this?

Lois is only early-30s, too. Had surgery at 19 if I'm reading it right, and after 13 years, the health issues are already this bad.

I want to find all the surgeons and scream at them.

1. Most members of the public don’t understand that most ‘trans women’ are heterosexual and keep their penis. A lot are in lesbian groups and try to sleep with us. Obviously we don’t want them. Typically they can get quite threatening when we say ‘no’.
2. These surgeries are dangerous and experimental.
3. The majority of the kids who are being drugged and having surgery performed on them are same-sex attracted. It’s gay conversion therapy in many cases. All to justify the feelings of what are mostly heterosexual males (see point 1). A huge number also have autism, which is a tragedy - how can no-one see the abuse of people with disabilities?
4. Open discussion of the effects of this and on detransitioners is badly needed.