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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

UK Government confirms it will block Scottish GRR

392 replies

IwantToRetire · 16/01/2023 17:44

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64288757

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Boiledbeetle · 16/01/2023 19:21

I go for a little afternoon nap and THIS happens!!!!!

Am I still asleep????

If I am then leave me to dream a little longer.

ArrrMeHearties · 16/01/2023 19:24

I once upon a time liked nicola sturgeon but she's not even coming close to being sensible on this. I for one am glad the bill had been rejected as it should be

Anothernameonthewall · 16/01/2023 19:28

@54isanopendoor I hope all goes well for your daughter. My niece is autistic and in p7. She's finding it hard to traverse the path of trans identifying boys in the fires bathrooms and periods. It's grim that our most vulnerable children ate being exposed like this. But, it is opening peoples eyes to how insidious and vile this whole movement is.

moggiek · 16/01/2023 19:32

Great news!!

teawamutu · 16/01/2023 19:34

If the SNP do go for JR, am I right in thinking they'll have to submit all the documentation and advice that proves they took the decision correctly and considered all legal ramifications...?

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 19:38

ArrrMeHearties · 16/01/2023 19:24

I once upon a time liked nicola sturgeon but she's not even coming close to being sensible on this. I for one am glad the bill had been rejected as it should be

I think many of us used to at least have respect for Sturgeon's political skills and abilities.

I'm finding that respect is eroding by the minute, though.

Boiledbeetle · 16/01/2023 19:40

Full frontal attack...Poor word choice Nicola. Poor!

UK Government confirms it will block Scottish GRR
Swissmountains · 16/01/2023 19:43

Full frontal attack 😂😂
Bloody hell is she having an actual laugh now?
Smoking the same thing as Harry!!! 😁😁

TheBelmont · 16/01/2023 19:44

Urgh she doesn’t care at all about trans people or women…or indeed anyone who is not an Indy voter. The whole thing has been contrived to get to this very outcome in the hope of galvanising more support for independence. How much taxpayers money is going to be pissed up the wall pursing legal challenge on this? Millions…meanwhile our schools are an embarrassment, our public services are shocking and our nhs has fallen apart. She is despicable.

Dougalskeeper · 16/01/2023 19:45

Good news at last, but this is only a battle not the whole war. We need to be ready for more of the same.

cravingtoblerone · 16/01/2023 19:45

Thank God. Common sense prevails...

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 16/01/2023 19:47

Finally. Great news.

DialSquare · 16/01/2023 19:48

Boiledbeetle · 16/01/2023 19:40

Full frontal attack...Poor word choice Nicola. Poor!

I love this response!

UK Government confirms it will block Scottish GRR
Boiledbeetle · 16/01/2023 19:53

@DialSquare 😁

RealFeminist · 16/01/2023 19:56

WHO KEEPS PLAYIN ME THIS BASTARD SONG?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 16/01/2023 19:57

MargaritaPie · 16/01/2023 18:15

Also I'm going to leave this here, for people who aren't clear on what the reforms actually are

I’m going to leave this here for people who would like a legal analysis by a lecturer in Public Law on how the GRR impacts on wider UK provisions and why s35 can be used https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/the-scottish-gender-recognition-reform-bill/

Confusedabouttheworld · 16/01/2023 19:58

Forgive me if this has been already mentioned, but I saw this graph on the BBC webpage recently and it says that 63 percent of women support Scotland’s gender reform bill, even though it could erode women’s rights. 49 percent of men supported it. Why is there this disparity?

UK Government confirms it will block Scottish GRR
LexMitior · 16/01/2023 19:59

Pah the JR is another sure loss. But the SNP will carrying on mining that grievance until the Scottish are so thick with it they cannot see the sun.

RealFeminist · 16/01/2023 19:59

ALSO THIS ONE ITS NO FUNNY ILL HAVE THE POLIS ROON FOR HATE CRIMES

StarInTheHeavens · 16/01/2023 20:00

I'd be interested to hear what Scots think about this? It affects so few compared to other hot issues at the moment. Surely Nicola has bigger more important issues to follow? And I don't mean her bloody referendum.

Notaflippinclue · 16/01/2023 20:01

Yabadabadoooo

Waitwhat23 · 16/01/2023 20:01

MargaritaPie · 16/01/2023 18:15

Also I'm going to leave this here, for people who aren't clear on what the reforms actually are

For the lurkers who perhaps haven't seen the relevant legislation regarding the EQA2010 -

Single sex exemptions (which allows even those with a GRC to be excluded in certain situations) -

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/notes/division/3/16/20/7

Prisons -

murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2023/01/13/what-does-the-scottish-prison-service-really-think-about-the-gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-2/

Sports -

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/notes/division/3/14/5

Margey's chart is wheeled out with tedious regularity by people who either haven't read or simply don't understand the EQA2010. Or by people who claim that there are 'no such thing as sex based rights' despite obvious evidence to the contrary.

We all know that these rights exist but organisations are ignoring the legislation which allows for single sex spaces due to Government funding being contingent on males being included and due to incorrect information by lobby groups.

The GRR Bill allows for anyone over the age of 16 to obscure their sex, falsify medical and legal documents and gain access to single sex spaces due to the silencing affect. Self ID makes it even more difficult for organisations to hold the line and provide the single sex services which they are legally entitled to provide. Beira's Place is already getting threats from TRA's that their service will be challenged as discriminatory despite them being perfectly entitled to provide such a service and given that they will be the only single sex rape crisis service in the Lothians, amid a sea of mixed sex services.

AutumnCrow · 16/01/2023 20:02

RealFeminist · 16/01/2023 19:59

ALSO THIS ONE ITS NO FUNNY ILL HAVE THE POLIS ROON FOR HATE CRIMES

Your posts always tickle me for some reason, in the bleakness of Sturgeon's mentalness.

I've got that original Clash album, the actual vinyl LP.

Rainbowshit · 16/01/2023 20:03

StarInTheHeavens · 16/01/2023 20:00

I'd be interested to hear what Scots think about this? It affects so few compared to other hot issues at the moment. Surely Nicola has bigger more important issues to follow? And I don't mean her bloody referendum.

I'm Scottish and I'm relieved the UK government have intervened.

Polls show that the vast majority in Scotland were not in favour of the GRR changes.

Rainbowshit · 16/01/2023 20:04

Dougalskeeper · 16/01/2023 19:45

Good news at last, but this is only a battle not the whole war. We need to be ready for more of the same.

We can never ever be complacent. This will never go away fully.