Met Police officer revealed as one of Britain’s worst rapists - Telegraph

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Comprehensive article in The Telegraph.

As someone who is sometimes disquieted by the amount of attention the trans issue is currently receiving, I think this is a completely fair point. Trans people aren't the problem, it's fucking bastards, but if by pretending to be trans they can more easily commit offences, then that's a problem.

As a former educator, I can say that some of the most problematic students (socially, behaviourally) were also the ones attracted to a career in the police forces.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that statistics show that the rate of domestic violence is higher in men in the armed forces or the police force.

It's so instructive, by the way, that he had been nicknamed as 'Bastard Dave'. Obvious echoes of everyone calling Couzens 'the Rapist'.

'Spotting patterns.' They knew. They were told, over and over. They'd worked it out for themselves. And they had his back.

Bad apples? Rotten to the core, more like.

Predatory men seek the means to access their victims. Positions and status where they won’t be challenged, where their voices is given more credence than the potential victims.

This is why women should always be taken seriously when they express concerns about male bodied people wanting unchallenged access to female spaces. In being kind to the small minority of trans people you may have inadvertently provided a smokescreen for a predator to hide behind.

Nobody should be beyond question.

At the very least it's yet another reminder that there is a group of males who are beyond questioning, beyond being held to account, who are actively raping and assaulting women.

There should be no group who is immune to questioning.

crabbyoldbat · Today 12:16

Not a resources issue IMO. It's a 'one of us, one of the lads' issue. 20 fucking years they had warnings about him, yet he was able to persecute, coerce, rape and torture 12 women in that time. Bastards.

It has to be the case that there are many more horrors in the Met, who are happy to cover for their criminal colleagues. I hope his conviction emboldens other victims to come forward, so that they can have some measure of redress.

This is how it all unfolded:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/16/met-police-david-carrick-one-woman-act-of-bravery-abuse

They have a serious problem with criminal officers:

uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/met-police-chief-mark-rowley-admits-not-allowed-sack-criminal-police-officers-110958153.html

"Sir Mark Rowley said that it is "crazy" that he is not allowed to sack "toxic" officers who are being investigated over allegations of racism or sexual misconduct."

"Rowley, who was being questioned over reports of 150 officers currently under investigation, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: “We have some very worrying cases with officers who’ve committed criminality whilst police officers and yet I’m not allowed to sack them."

According to some reports this case was the reason Sadiq Khan sacked Cressida Dick last year.

I just think this is the tip of the iceberg.

I don't have much dealings with the police yet the one time I needed them for a DV situation, the officer who took the 'case' (it was never prosecuted) took my number from police records and texted me privately multiple times.

It was obviously a case of trying to prey on a young vulnerable woman. It was incredibly upsetting and an abuse of power - I needed protection not being fucking 'hit on'

These people are in a position where they are constantly coming across 'young, vulnerable women' - they have a constant stream of victims should they be that way inclined

I am not in London, it was never reported, I am sure I was not a one-off. But where would you even go to report this? What are the avenues? I think most people would struggle to know, I know I did and do.

The other dealing I have had where this was clearly a problem is a friend of mine who was married to a police officer and he was incredibly abusive. Literally tying her up and torturing her. To think this never spilled over into work is just not possible. He was vile.

On one hand I think, there is a large population of men in the police, so it is inevitable, but ffs it's the police. If they can't sort out rapists and abusers then god help the rest of us.

Its systemic not just one bad apple. They cover for each other. Carrick committed the crimes, but there was multiple officers who must have been aware of his nature and behaviour and they chose to overlook it. They allowed these crimes to be perpetrated by emboldening him to continue They are just as guilty.

This is why men have more power than women they all cover for each other and watch each other's backs, the power is largely derived from the exploitation of women so it's in their interest to make sure they can all carry on with the exploitation in its various forms.

Was shocked when I saw on the news today. Do they just let anybody into the police now without proper checks and if they had some inkling of what he was doing why was he not stopped. All those women's lives have been ruined but bet they were not believed. Just shocking.

Scotland Yard bosses have apologised to his victims after admitting missing numerous opportunities to prevent his offending and failing to act on repeated complaints about his behaviour.

Ignoring complaints now becomes a missed opportunity, FFS. These are the arseholes who are supposed to be able to investigate crimes, it doesn't inspire confidence when you can't even join the dots after multiple women tell you a similar story. I wonder if multiple men would have been ignored if they had reported an officer for committing crimes.

The police can fuck off, your excuses are too fucking lame, it's time to get your shit together and start policing rather than bullying women. Inspector Clouseau looks more competent and less fascist than our current police force.

Exactly.

The bigger question here is how and why the Met are continually getting away with letting these people carry on when they should have been investigated much more deeply than they were. IMO the Met are responsible for any offences carried out after the first or second report. But will anybody have to answer to that? Of course not, as has been shown over and over again. Why?

I was invited to an event over Christmas where one of the guests was 60-something retired police superintendent, devout Christian and general pillar of the community. I was sitting quietly and apparently unseen in a corner while he and a couple of his friends from the church ogled photos from a friend of theirs, a former policeman, who'd recently married a young Malaysian woman 30 years younger than him. They were drooling over the bride and her sisters and wondering how many of them their friend had had the pleasure of. This is why so many women want to be dealt with by women in prisons, in hospitals, in care homes, in clinics: because it will usually protect us from the deeply ingrained sexism and misogyny that's rife in male-dominated institutions.

hamstersarse I'm so sorry, that is absolutely appalling.

Difference is, they don’t see rape as an actual crime worth bothering themselves about. It’s a minor thing, some stupid slag complaining about nothing.

A vigil? Against one of their own? That’s a public order offence, a potential threat to their authority. They care a lot about that sort of thing.

I have in recent times started to wonder if Germaine Greer was right about 'what to do about rape'

She argued not so long ago that rape should be downgraded as a crime. This was very jarring for me at the time I heard it, but now I think she has a good point.

If it were a downgraded crime, and because of this it enabled more convictions, then at least we would all fucking know what we are dealing with. We would know exactly who the rapists are. The current situation is that it is so difficult to get a conviction, they all just walk amongst us.

All 3, I think.
I'd travel to a protest if I could but I live in Scotland where even the legal concept of being a woman is being erased. NAMALT but the System enables those who are. Again & Again & Again.

Yes, what's their term for it... 'struggle cuddle' I believe?

By "downgraded as a crime" do you mean that the sentences should be reduced to things like fines? How would that help conviction rates and help women identify rapists?

Anything that makes any man look bad is a threat to all men because it damages the veneer, they need to keep up their veneer so that they can continue with the exploitation which underpins their dominance

It’s already essentially been decriminalised. Even for stranger rapes, if the guys says the woman just happened to be really into rough sex down an alley with strangers, and he has no idea why she started screaming halfway through, there’s a fair chance he’ll get off.

My own rapist tried a similar trick, and it ended up going to a majority verdict, because apparently more than one juror though that was a credible tale.

There is a write-up of Greer's point by Mary Beard here which is really good and in depth, hopefully fair: www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v41/n20/mary-beard/the-greer-method]]

You can make your own mind up, it's wholly controversial, but I just know the current system is not working in protecting women from rape and getting rapists actually convicted so we do have to think about other ways

I would be content to see the onus of proof partially reversed on rape cases: once it was proven beyond doubt that sex had happened, it was then up to the man to prove (to the civil standard; so balance of probabilities) that consent had been given.

I've been shouted down on this site for suggesting it before but I think it would be much better than any of the other suggested solutions, none of which is working.

I also wonder if it would make sense for:

-rapes and sexual assaults to be investigated prosecuted purely by women, at the police, CPS and judicial level, and/or

-there to be some additional mechanism for reporting police for crimes - particularly but perhaps not only sexual offences - perhaps to a completely separate external agency