Posie’s back!

[Whatthechicken]

love her, or hate her, we need her…and not a moment too soon.

twitter.com/theposieparker/status/1605663118402600961?s=21&t=PWXzDYgfqtMOfbm25dj7Mw

The fall of roe v wade is a failure of the left. They had so many opportunities to make US women's right to abortion more secure than a flakey piece of case law but it just kind of slipped off the agenda every single time.

Maybe it was always worth more to left wing men as a carrot or stick to hold over women to secure their allegiance to left wing men's interests.

'Nice abortion rights you have there, shame if anything happened to them'

What will misogynist left wing men in the US do now their protection racket has been busted?

Why should US women support them now?

For anyone concerned about abortion rights in the UK I started a thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4696173-abortion-rights-in-the-uk-are-they-at-risk

Please do contribute to this discussion.

Miriam Ben-Shalom said it all five years ago.

It's hard to believe that this stupid distracting shit has been going on for so long.

Yes, feminists in HATA have held the line on reproductive rights.

HATA has had nothing to say about reproductive rights because it's a conscious coalition of women who know they have very different views on abortion and are prepared to set aside (uh-oh) those views to work together on this other, different issue.

If you think HATA were responsible for the failure of RvW then please show your workings.

And again, you have trashed other women's ways of doing politics without offering an alternative.

Which alternative US women's orgs should we support if WoLF and HATA are so terrible?

Hear hear LCinSpace.

We’re about to start another year of this shit and none of us are getting any younger, how long are we expected to wait for the perfect vehicle of change to arrive? Don’t we have to work with the tools we have? Meanwhile look at Scotland- land grabs are being made by this sinister men’s rights movement.

I’m not a historian but I’d imagine that all the historical struggles of the past involved strategic working and compromise and careful boundaries too otherwise nothing would have ever changed. That’s just how politics is, isn’t it? Messy democratic reality. The remainder is blind faith or tribalism or authoritarianism and fear and they don’t tend to work too well as agents of change for women.

HATA and WOLF are doing good things and getting Posie on board is a clever move.

The trashing of this woman (which happens on every single thread with her name on) is so clearly driven by jealousy and hatred. For some reason, TRAs think she's a weak spot they can use to cause division among us. But their campaigns only bring Posie's message to more women.

I doubt they'll ever figure out what they're doing wrong!

Oh well I guess the reason is the real feminists slagging off Posie. Gives a lot of ammo to the TRAs. Which gives a lot of exposure and support to Posie.

Feminism is a political movement for the emancipation of women from patriarchy. Gender ideology is patriarchy writ large. In what sense is GC a separate movement? Or have you redefined the meaning of feminism as well?

OMG I can't believe people are standing alongside Nazis just for the numbers.

@Redebs Good job it's not true then.

So Stephen Y-L isn't involved?

I'd be sorry to hear differently, but to the best of my knowledge it's all insinuation and guilt by association. Someone who knows someone, who knew someone, who might have known someone else, was seen at a SFW rally that anyone can attend. It makes about as much sense as calling her a tra because they always show up as well.

I believe you can contact Posie, even easier now she's back on twitter, and ask her yourself

I've just caught up with the thread. The back and forth is now so familiar. I'm grateful to those posters who counter the frequent attacks on Kellie Jay with calls for evidence and queries as to why those who agree on one issue should have to agree on every issue.

KJK is an important and powerful voice. She is essential in this resistance movement. I often feel that the way in which tras will counter her is to appeal to female socialisation - our inner Beryl as I've heard it called 😄

Constant, vague allusions to shady friends etc. Things that people have to spend hours following up in order to counter. These things will give people just enough of a feeling of unease to prevent support of KJK in any way. I would really recommend those who are not sure to listen in to her You Tubes. She is very open about her views -- decide for yourself.

I don't feel the need to say I don't agree with her on everything (I don't) or that the chit chattery of her channel is irritating (at times). But I do listen in regularly because I think she is the most straightforward and powerful voice we have. I am so so grateful to her. No wonder those who fear her straightforwardness feel the need to slur her so frequently.

In terms of the issues with A Woman's Place - that organisation has posted this blog outlining their concerns womansplaceuk.org/2022/06/22/womans-place-and-posie-parker/

I understand the point of view outlined. There are sensitivities in discussing cultural differences within the UK because that is also the subject matter of yobs like Yaxley.

I think this is the basis for the accusations against her. For me, each and every issue should be discussable on its own merits regardless of personalities.

What, in women's rights?

I very much doubt it.

I did hear he queued in the post office, next to an older woman who once sewed a flag for Greenham Common once. But I believe she got out without incident. When she went for her check up the doctors confirmed she hadn't caught any misogyny, so that's reassuring.

Heartwarming stuff. I hear she's still immune too.

I don’t have to agree with Posie on everything to admire a woman who refuses to be dragged down into a purity spiral. There are many ways that people try to shut women up and this is somewhat recent one that’s she’s just not having, and I applaud her for that.

It’s illustrative of how angry it makes men that their new trick isn’t working, and women, that a peer isn’t toeing the, manmade, line, along with them.