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Change of CEO at mermaids…

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backaftera2yearbreak · 25/11/2022 17:52

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/susie-green-leaves-mermaids/

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Whereareyourshoes · 26/11/2022 18:24

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2022 18:05

Of course there's always Scotland closer to home. A move across the border and she could be an MSP in a year or two. Fit right in with the SNP or Greens.

Aw, come on, we've got enough problems up here as it is!

Yikes. Mind you, Ruth Hunt ended up in the House of Lords after all the damage she caused.

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2022 18:28

Yes. Ruth Hunt is still active.

'The member receives free or reduced cost copies of the book ‘The Transgender Issue’ from Penguin Random House for distribution to members of both Houses'

members.parliament.uk/member/4725/registeredinterests

Moonatics · 26/11/2022 18:42

BaseDrops · 26/11/2022 18:18

But but SG took her daughter abroad. So the FGM laws should apply. Unless of course the FGM laws apply specifically to biological sex. And not gender. Do they even have provision for DSDs?

Can one identify into being a girl while simultaneously not be identifying into having FGM laws applied? It’s all very confusing.

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Well that's just a headfuck.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 26/11/2022 19:00

xxyzz · 26/11/2022 00:40

Right. The Guardian knows what's coming. This article and Amelia Gentleman's article a couple of days ago. It's clearly preparing for a massive reverse ferret.

My money's on the Charity Commission being about to launch a statutory inquiry into Mermaids, on safeguarding grounds - the Guardian article said statutory inquiries were relatively rare, with only 45 last year.

If the NHS are finally definitely banning staff from linking to them as well, it seems pretty likely that the news is out about safeguarding concerns.

Criminal charges for serious safeguarding failures are looking increasing likely.

And/or it could be the LGBA judgement being imminent - and damning for Mermaids.

Either way, great to hear SG is gone - can't wait to hear Emma Watson's and Jameela Jamil's continued words of support for her. Because of course they'd never drop her like hot coals the millisecond it became apparent the cause was no longer fashionable, would they?

But JJ and EW will simply say the CC are transphobic; and SG left because of the Terven.

Same old, same old.

They wouldn't publicly denounce Mermaids or SG with a gun to their head.

oldwomanwhoruns · 26/11/2022 19:04

What about the puberty blockers that this child was given? Where did they come from? Which doctor prescribed them, if any??
Was this legal?
So many questions.

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 26/11/2022 19:34

oldwomanwhoruns · 26/11/2022 19:04

What about the puberty blockers that this child was given? Where did they come from? Which doctor prescribed them, if any??
Was this legal?
So many questions.

Dr Norman Spack

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Spack

SirMingeALot · 26/11/2022 19:54

BaseDrops · 26/11/2022 18:18

But but SG took her daughter abroad. So the FGM laws should apply. Unless of course the FGM laws apply specifically to biological sex. And not gender. Do they even have provision for DSDs?

Can one identify into being a girl while simultaneously not be identifying into having FGM laws applied? It’s all very confusing.

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The FGM legislation refers specifically to the relevant body parts. Clitoris, labia menora and labia majora.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/31/contents

OldCrone · 26/11/2022 20:00

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 26/11/2022 19:34

Dr Norman Spack

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Spack

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Dr Norman Spack, who was 'salivating' when he first came across the idea of experimenting on children with hormone treatment.

One of the first and biggest hormone programs for young teenagers in the United States is led by a Harvard-affiliated pediatric endocrinologist, Dr. Norman Spack, at Boston Children’s Hospital.

Dr. Spack recalled being at a meeting in Europe about 15 years ago, when he learned that the Dutch were using puberty blockers in transgender early adolescents.

“I was salivating,” he recalled. “I said we had to do this.”

www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/nyregion/transgender-minors-gender-reassignment-surgery.html

Behind a paywall, but archived here:
archive.ph/pfCqw

oldwomanwhoruns · 26/11/2022 20:01

Thx @DaughterOfPsychiatrist .
If these drugs were not approved/not available for this use in Britain, is this an ok thing to do??
One would think that someone should be investigating. After all, the damage that these drugs do is not a minor matter...

BewaretheIckabog · 26/11/2022 20:04

I always wondered about the designated safeguarding lead. My assumption was probably not Susie but named lead not on policy or someone who left (policy not updated).

A lot of charities get generic policy and procedures documents from great places like CVS but don’t bother to read them or understand them.

Bet Mermaids got theirs from Stonewall.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/11/2022 20:16

BewaretheIckabog · 26/11/2022 20:04

I always wondered about the designated safeguarding lead. My assumption was probably not Susie but named lead not on policy or someone who left (policy not updated).

A lot of charities get generic policy and procedures documents from great places like CVS but don’t bother to read them or understand them.

Bet Mermaids got theirs from Stonewall.

Yes Beware. BEAT eating disorders page linked below is what rigorous policies look like from an ethical charity that supports children. This has links to their safeguarding policy and others. Their guidelines for forum usage are rigorous and designed to support (not exploit) children.
Safeguarding should be the priority for every organisation.. Not something that comes second to the political demands of adults:

www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/privacy/

MoirasSaggyBundles · 26/11/2022 20:34

"Salivating" at the thought of doing irreversible harm to children? Dr Mengele much?

ResisterRex · 26/11/2022 20:46

Just noticed the resignation was covered by the Mail, and Times:

Mermaids boss resigns as transgender charity faces watchdog probe
mol.im/a/11471797

Mermaids charity chief Susie Green steps down

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/97fa10de-6d0e-11ed-8143-e644f9e96fa0?shareToken=b75641919126f7f2659e3254e2712b21

Needmoresleep · 26/11/2022 20:47

SG took leave during the LGBA court case that Mermaids initiated. Was a decision made that she was not going to be a witness? Was she not needed to brief her colleagues? After all she is the one, if anyone, who would know the detail.

There must be a back story around the decision to take the Charity Commission to court. It would be very interesting to know how this shit show happened. SG carrying the can. SG leaving?

BornBlonde · 26/11/2022 20:57

Torunette · 26/11/2022 08:19

I think it is important to note that the only way Mermaids was able to grow into the leviathan it did was because the key figure in the charity was a middle-aged mother.

Had the front face of Mermaids been anyone else, the strangeness of the message would have been noticed far earlier. No one would have accepted a middle-aged father arguing for this level of psychosexual medical and surgical intervention in children. He would have been shut down from the off. Likewise, anyone without children would not have worked, nor anyone younger.

It had to be a middle-aged mother with a trans child. That's the only figure with enough societal preconceptual armour to be able to slip past the glaringly obvious safe guarding and grooming issues.

And this is the problem for Mermaids. Because of the nature of the subject, it only works if the key voices are non-trans parents.

I came on to say this but will repost @Torunette who said it more eloquently than I would have.

xalo · 26/11/2022 21:00

@Torunette
Great post!

Birdsweepsin · 26/11/2022 21:18

It's like a Greek Tragedy via the medium of LinkedIn

Change of CEO at mermaids…
NotPurpleAnymore · 26/11/2022 21:30

@Birdsweepsin

That's for real! I had to double check!

Unemployed, eh?

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 26/11/2022 21:40

Birdsweepsin · 26/11/2022 21:18

It's like a Greek Tragedy via the medium of LinkedIn

Oh my god that's hilarious 😂

Birdsweepsin · 26/11/2022 21:52

I dont know for sure. But this looks like it might be... ("this brilliant charity", but no details at all about what they do, start ASAP and hit the ground running...)

archive.ph/2022.11.26-204259/www.office-angels.com/Job/interim-md-charity-leeds?ID=71f14f44-9dd6-4605-8365-810407d6e185

Boiledbeetle · 26/11/2022 22:00

Birdsweepsin · 26/11/2022 21:52

I dont know for sure. But this looks like it might be... ("this brilliant charity", but no details at all about what they do, start ASAP and hit the ground running...)

archive.ph/2022.11.26-204259/www.office-angels.com/Job/interim-md-charity-leeds?ID=71f14f44-9dd6-4605-8365-810407d6e185

@Happylittlechicken time for your application to go in

Boiledbeetle · 26/11/2022 22:02

Oh hang on that vacancy requires a full dbs check so it can't be mermaids

Whattaboutit · 26/11/2022 22:09

‘Joining at a busy time’. Nobody wants to be this busy.

SierraSapphire · 26/11/2022 22:11

It says "whilst their Executive Director is on extended leave". That's some extended leave!

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 26/11/2022 22:14

Available to start within the next month? Surely anyone suitable for that level of responsibility would have a full month's notice at the absolute minimum?

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