Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.

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She is fabulous.

FFS, what a load of shit.
I love KJK, ❤️ and can't believe what she has to put up with, yet she carries on.
I wish I were even a tenth as brave as she is.

Why are Brighton police investigating a woman concerned with the safeguarding of women and children (dogwhistle words according to MoJ!!!) rather than the black pampers and those women who accused a baby of being a fascist?

It's a massive own goal by the TRA who reported her and I am sure KJK will get lots of views and sell lots of teeshirts off the back of this.

I don't see how any of it will benefit women and girls in Brighton & Hove.

KJK has stayed silent on all the issues we are campaigning for, she did not mention the mixed sex domestic violence refuges, the rape crisis centre court case or any of the other issues affecting women and girls here.

So yes it's a win for KJK but not so much for women and girls in the city.

Bizarre - I have had experience of trying to get the police to support disabled people who are experiencing direct abuse due to their disability and they are very reluctant to label it a hate crime.

Did KJK not wear a body cam that day?

KJK has stayed silent on all the issues we are campaigning for, she did not mention the mixed sex domestic violence refuges, the rape crisis centre court case

Would you want her to? I thought you were strongly opposed to her? She can't win, can she?

If I worked in television i would send a crew down to Brighton to film the interview.

I would really love to watch a proper in-depth analysis. Look at the far right, Proud Boys, Matt Walsh connections. Open it all up.

And hang the documentary on the Brighton incident including babyfascist, the malicious hate crime allegation and the foolishness of the police in the face of very poorly worded legislation.

Would you want her to? I thought you were strongly opposed to her? She can't win, can she?

I think the rule is that if you're one of the Good People, the Bad People are supposed to say what you want, while you say they're shit and you want nothing to do with them.

If the Bad People don't say what you want, it proves they're Bad, and if they do, it's only because they're trying to undermine the Good People.

And if they don't like you saying that they're shit and you want nothing to do with them, that also proves they're Bad, because if they were Good they'd suck it up and promise to Do Better.

(It's really no mystery why Woke is so unappealing, given most people don't get to play the Good role...)

Any interview is designed to get that persons side of the event and to ask them about the allegation made against them.

Person A assaults person B. Person A gets arrested and Person B provides a statement with some CCTV.

Person A is arrested as there are sufficient grounds in this example (on going incident and the victim is at risk). Person A is interviewed to get their account (did you do it or not). if you didn't do it, how do you explain these injuries or explain this CCTV footage. Person A can elect to answer, or go 'no reply'

Because of the wording of the caution (it will harm your defence.......) - if they are asked similar questions at court but given a different answer - the court can draw an inference from it - such as if they go no reply, when they go to court, the court can draw an inference as to why they didn't answer that question when they got interviewed by police.

A voluntary interview is just that - there is no necessity to arrest them so they can be vol interviewed. They are not under arrest and they are told they are free to leave at any point. So, they can up and walk out at the start.

They can't then be arrested - as it will not be a vol interview. Besides which, they have been told they are free to leave at any point. If they do this, they are effectively waving their right to be interviewed. The case file will just proceed as normal to the court without the interview of person A

In essence for a vol interview - I can't say:
"This is a voluntary interview and you're free to leave at any point - but if you do try an leave I will arrest you"
As it won't be a voluntary interview

If you simply refuse to attend for a vol interview, it can be used as ground for arrest. This would depend on the offence, the reason why they are avoiding police, are they on the run, the custody sergeant etc. If they don't turn up for an interview, what is the prospect that they won't turn up at court?

YY, Necessary.

I thought KJK's rule was ignore political allegiances and fight the good fight?

Clearly actually backing tangible causes in Brighton & Hove that directly support women and girls is a step too far if it means KJK aligning with feminists.

Sappho

She has campaigned around domestic violence refuges before, and raised some money to fund one. She then tried to donate it to a female only charity but most of them were like you and your high minded Brighton friends and refused the donation. She eventually found a charity who were happy to take the money.

Your group has been really quite nasty about her, from what I can see. Why is it only her who should "ignore political allegiances and fight the good fight"?

Clearly actually backing tangible causes in Brighton & Hove that directly support women and girls is a step too far if it means KJK aligning with feminists.

KJK is campaigning for the word woman to mean woman. It's directly related to getting men out of women's spaces.

KJK has stayed silent on all the issues we are campaigning for, she did not mention the mixed sex domestic violence refuges, the rape crisis centre court case or any of the other issues affecting women and girls here.
I wouldn't have thought you'd want that case tarred with her far right associations Sappho?

I wouldn't have thought you'd want that case tarred with her far right associations Sappho?

Quite, Tinsel.

As someone said earlier, they’re basically asking her to come in and hopefully self incriminate herself. That’s the only point of a voluntary interview: take advantage of the fact most people won’t know their rights and will feel obliged to go. I mean the poor PC couldn’t even tell her what the actual crime was. “Using words to stir up hatred”. What crime is that Felix125?

When it's got to the stage where high minded feminists in Brighton are the enemy and are accused of reporting KJK to the police then I think we have lost sight of the original aims of protecting women and girls.

Just to be clear, I didn't say that it was the Brighton feminists who reported KJK to the police.

OMG I love the look on Posie's face when she's taking that call. Why are TRAs (and feminists??) so stupid as to play into her hands that way? They consistently underestimate her and think they're going to 'get' her by playing the same tricks they've played a hundred times before. So, so foolish.

Oh and Sappho, KJK raised a whole heap of money for a women's refuge. She is constantly campaigning to keep men out of women's spaces. If you need her help, you should ask her. I'm sure she'll be more than happy to lend her voice.

Some people here speak to her, they could put in a word if you genuinely want to put your differences aside for the Brighton court case, Brighton refuges etc, but you'd probably need to check with your friends, Sappho.

I know Ereshkigalangcleg

I was referring to the post at 20.50 yesterday from solsburyjill

@SapphosRock KJK's events, including her Brighton one, are open mic events for all women to speak about the things that they are concerned with losing as as a result of TRA institutional capture. Many brave women spoke. You could have gone and spoken about the things that are happening to women/women's services locally. You could have set aside the differences. Why didn't you?

Thanks Sappho. It seems more likely to have come from the other side, to me, but what do I know.

I'm not making that accusation either but maybe said "high minded" feminists should examine what it is about their behaviour that has made such an accusation plausible to some people. (What are the rest of us lessers? Low minded?)