last leg anti woman shit show last night

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Oh gosh ladies I never thought it would happen (especially as they have constanyly refused to put graham linehsn on the dick of the year despite massive pressure from the trans lobby )but it did.

In what appears to be a new producers anti women statement.

They made the denigration of jk rowling, the promotion of stone wall and complete pasting of the studio with the anti female trans heavy "pride" flag. A supposed response to the world cup being held in quatar a country that has significant human rights abuses and anti gay laws

I feel shaken by it. To see that flag and all it represents for lesbians in this country, for safeguarding and single sex spaces for women, being waved and draped over everyone was deeply sickening,

This program is no longer a friend to women or girls or gay people.

Can they really have not understood how terrible the optics and realities are?
Have they not understood what's just happened between mermaids and LGBA?

Upsetting.

That's great. Could you point me to the shows with Suffragette colours where women take the piss out of gender extremists?
What channel are they on?

Watch a few episodes of Triggernometry to see how reluctant comedians are to quest the new orthodoxy. In their second interview of Kellie-Jay Keen they admitted they were terrified of the response when they aired the first. It was fine obviously because they are men.

I enjoyed it at first but got fed up when they didn't mention JKR. Bunch of cowards.

I don't agree with anything JKR says

im sure you would agree with ‘some’ of what shes said on the matter, but i do understand that that you don’t agree with everything

Yup @BiggerBoat1 .

That's the problem. We ALL count. All our opinions should be listened to. You'll note I wasn't responding to the TV show but to spider indicating that having a problem with a show being openly politicised as an opinion not worthy of respect.

I’m not religious, but I know Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Hindus exist. I just disagree with their beliefs.

This is the crux of the problem. Religious beliefs are allowed to run alongside public life. If we had to say a prayer at work I'd soon become a lot less tolerant.

“Also pretty sure I matter and I don't agree with anything JKR says.”

That biological women exist? You don’t agree with that? Are you unintelligent or just in denial?

Yup also still waiting for someone to say anything that jk Rowling has said that they don't agree with.

Here's JKR's essay for reference if anyone wants to quote directly the parts that are 'transphobic' -

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

There's vigils been done and everything. Still no examples given.

The Last Leg used to be about disabilities but got bored of its remit a long time ago. Now it's just three blokes having fun and bantz using Channel 4's money. It's Top Gear Lite.

TLL was on immediately after England won the Wheelchair Rugby League World Cup. It took TLL until the end of the programme to get round to mentioning it. (I wasn't watching; DH was). You'd think that it would be top of the bill. OK, there must be some time lag in the 'live' broadcast but not 45 minutes!

Can't comment about the rest because I wasn't watching. I don't watch because it was obvious several seasons back that they are Team Koolaid.

Does anyone have any idea what it is that JKR actually said that was so upsetting?

Does anyone have any idea what it is that JKR actually said that was so upsetting?

Id like to know too! Does anyone know why she is so hated by the trans community and it’s followers? I’m absolutely stumped.

Agree. I used to pretty much only watch C4, but now I avoid it like the plague.

Or this? twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033?s=20&t=YGg5bcZxudy-Ca3QNUTfAg

@BiggerBoat1 is going to tell us what JKR said which is so awful - unless of course, like so many people who find JKR ‘problematic’ they actually haven’t read her essay, and have no idea what they’re talking about

This. I used to love Channel 4 bit I agree they are less and less enjoyable to watch.

Well done to JKR for speaking up, she's done nothing wrong. Worlds gone mad.

so blind to that the fact that 'you want trans people not to exist' is now being used as a propaganda statement

Is it though? I watched Kellie Jay Keen in Cardiff yesterday and she said
“There’s no such thing as a transwoman. Transwomen are men. There’s no such thing as a transman. Transmen are women.” to cheers and applause….

And at this and every Stand Up for Women event there’s invariably the chant of “Transwomen are men” on repeat.

If that’s not a statement indicating that gender critical women either a) believe that transpeople do not exist or b) don’t want them to exist, I don’t know what would be more glaringly obvious?

That's asking for accurate labelling not saying you don't want the actual people to actually exist. Quite different.

But of course transwomen are men, Onnabugeisha! They wouldn’t be trans if they were actually women, surely that’s obvious? They are men who either have gender dysphoria, wish they could be women, or have a sexual fetish such as AGP.
Nobody here is denying that such men exist. We merely state the scientific fact that they are men.

If that’s not a statement indicating that gender critical women either a) believe that transpeople do not exist or b) don’t want them to exist, I don’t know what would be more glaringly obvious?
By that logic, if I say an apple is not a pear then, apparently, it means that I think apples don't exist.

But the presence of the trans flag doesn't necessarily have all the negative connotations

Transwomen are transwomen. Not quite sure how that means I deny their existence.