Are they really this delusional? *trigger warning - thread mentions suicide*

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I was reading this thread

www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/yvt4ru/how_should_men_respond_to_transphobic_feminists/

and I just couldn’t believe these people are serious!
How can someon be this far gone?
Where do they base their beliefs on?

Have you considered getting out in the fresh air? You’ve not actually made a single point yet, but you seem ever so cross

As demonstrated in another thread - unless we are talking about people who would've previously been described as "transsexual" - ie they want to be the opposite sex - there isn't really a consensus on how to define who is or isn't "trans" under the wide and nebulous umbrella, so that would need to be clarified before it could be measured.

If people (adults) want to be the opposite sex and take steps to be treated like they are, I have no issue with that in most situations. Taking a driving test, going to the pub, decorating a room, walking down the street, doesn't matter to me if they're a man or a woman.
It's the few where biological sex matters that we need to ensure we're not conflating sex and gender.

Interesting, so I cannot “talk about another thread” without getting my posts deleted even though another poster initiated “talk about another thread” and their post is left in situ, as is other posters who shall we say are of a common feather?

That's not what anyone's said. People have explained the evidence to you.

It's just very clear. We have pretty good data on all of this. Not to say we can't improve it. But there's nothing to suggest that the evidence we currently have is way off base.

And bingo, an ad hominem.

Which is obviously not the case, as see the many threads about newspaper reports on crimes in the national press where it is stated whether the male or female person involved is also TQ+ identified. The census, bending over backwards and in very odd directions to ensure that everyone can put down every relevant identity they wish to.

Lack of visibility really is not a problem. There's a T day of remembrance for goodness sake, where names are read out and remembered - are the people organising this really managing to miss hundreds of UK TQ+ people?

Here is your chance then.
Trans is where someone's sex and gender doesn't align or match.

Please set out which genders match with each sex, so a person can identify whether theirs match.

We can start from there to learn the logical basis your view is based on.

You’re a bit confused aren’t you @suggestionsplease1 do you need a cup of tea and a biscuit? Maybe a nice lay down. No one is denting trans identified people exist. We know they do. Like vegans. Are you suggesting that authorities and statisticians are listening to feminists when it comes to recording figures? You’re accusing them of dishonesty and collusion to obscure crime figures? Wow. Harsh.

I like to think of it as helpful advice

you seem both angry and sad

Also I’m not sure you know what an ad hominem attack is

Personally I don't care if someone is angry and sad, if they are willing to engage to explain their position.

They never are, though. Next it'll be an attempted detail about what FWR posters are like.

^derail, not detail. Detail is often lacking.

Haha, loving this! Ad hominem case in point.

This poster hasn’t explained a single thing since they arrived though @LaughingPriest

just incoherent rudeness and anger

Great, let’s talk about sex disaggregated data: good or bad

and you still owe us that list of gender identities that match ‘woman’

I think it’s a lack of selenium In their diet and not enough fresh air.

...and again hahaha

Pretty good data that cannot be cited from any source reputable or otherwise.

Try the government collated statistics annually for homicide which break down population groups.

You want to talk sensibly? Do it

The ONS has some really good statistics on this very subject.

And as per @suggestionsplease1 stated do not consistently record the specific transgender identity of victims.

Agree they’ve got it upside-down and sideways too.

sorry bro, none of the other fellers will oppress you or be misogynistic towards you. Both because you are a lad so they don’t want to AND because it just logically cannot be done. A right bummer dude, but there it is.
They might oppress you for being a feminine lad, which sure sucks, but that really is for your own side to sort out.
best of luck!!

How can one 'choose' womanhood? What does that entail?

I'm about to go into a meeting, so I'll await suggestions answer later this afternoon. Can't wait. They know so much about this subject! I'm sure they won't change my wording or just answer a completely different question, because that would suggest they don't know what they're talking about!