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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New York - Let Women Speak tour - violent attacks, arrests

503 replies

ArabellaScott · 14/11/2022 20:32

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Hoping everyone is okay.

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ApocalipstickNow · 15/11/2022 17:29

Anyone shouting “wh*re” at women as an insult is showing exactly what they mean when they say “sex work is work” and call feminists “SWERFS”- ie they are in no way supporting women in those situations.

Happylittlechicken · 15/11/2022 17:30

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 17:27

I will leave you with it. You have chased me off the board again. Well done.
For the record, I have carried out lots of feminist activism and helped out lots of women.

That’s what I asked. If you have better methods, that have worked for you in the past, why don’t you share them and maybe they can be used instead of methods you clearly disapprove of.

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 17:32

Happylittlechicken · 15/11/2022 17:30

That’s what I asked. If you have better methods, that have worked for you in the past, why don’t you share them and maybe they can be used instead of methods you clearly disapprove of.

Plan ahead and hire security. It is not difficult.

Happylittlechicken · 15/11/2022 17:34

That’s it? But you got upset about her hiring security? So if she hires security she’s bad but if she doesn’t she’s bad? You seem more jealous of her than anything to be honest. So what campaigns have you been involved in to protect womens rights?

beastlyslumber · 15/11/2022 17:37

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 17:27

I will leave you with it. You have chased me off the board again. Well done.
For the record, I have carried out lots of feminist activism and helped out lots of women.

oh ffs. "Chased you off the board". You have nothing to contribute except hate. People don't want to hear it. Go and spew your hatred elsewhere.

KozmicBlue · 15/11/2022 17:41

I detest the argument that everything is ok cos the person or people doing the bad thing got arrested.

It's a nonsensical argument and antithetical to good safeguarding and risk management practices.

The aggression and violence towards women speaking out at these events isn't somehow balanced when the perpetrators agent arrested. The harm has been done at that stage.

beastlyslumber · 15/11/2022 17:42

No you don't get it, happylittlechicken. KJK is bad because:

Men at her events are violent
People come to her events who she doesn't know
She went to America for no reason
She lives in a big house
She has nice hair and gets her nails done
Er... she once stood next to someone who some other people said was a fascist

I think that's it. On another thread antelope went off on a big load of lies about her. Thread got deleted in the end but it was quite a state. Antelope is riven with jealousy and hatred. It's sad but also really fucking annoying.

VestofAbsurdity · 15/11/2022 17:45

Plan ahead and hire security. It is not difficult.

and when KJK did hire security you criticised her relentlessly. So which is it @antelopevalley ?

Your deep seated hatred of KJK knows no bounds you won't be happy until KJK is tied to a stake ready to be burnt and you'll be the first one there with the matches.

Happylittlechicken · 15/11/2022 17:45

Ahhh that makes sense @beastlyslumber i thought KJK had stolen antelopes boyfriend when they were 12 or something because that’s the last time I saw that level of petty hate and jealousy. I think I saw some other threads but didn’t want to drag up drama if I was wrong.

BedTaker · 15/11/2022 17:47

It really is eye opening how misogyny and violence SFW is attracting, particularly in America.

Even the Westboro Baptist Church protests don't get like this do they?

You can see the rage and hatred for women, that they might actually be setting boundaries for themselves and not just rolling over, it's so clear to see.

beastlyslumber · 15/11/2022 17:49

Well you might be right about the boyfriend @Happylittlechicken . It would certainly explain a lot.

Datun · 15/11/2022 17:50

antelopevalley

People reacting to you isn't chasing you off the board. No-one can chase you off anything, for Gods sake. You can press buttons on your phone just like anyone else.

On the last thread you spent the whole time criticising Posie for hiring security that you don't approve of, and this time you're criticising her for not hiring security.

Interspersed with complaints about her big fuck off house and telling outright lies about some fictitious private school education in Hong Kong - and then complaining about that, and the entirely imaginary wealthy grandparents who you resentfully imagined funded it!

Stop thinking about this woman, for goodness sake.

beastlyslumber · 15/11/2022 17:51

You can see the rage and hatred for women, that they might actually be setting boundaries for themselves and not just rolling over, it's so clear to see.

And the fact that the event is called "Let Women Speak" - they make it soooooo obvious that they just want to silence us, and they're in a wild narcissistic rage when they can't. I really hope that a lot of women see this.

Helleofabore · 15/11/2022 17:51

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 17:27

I will leave you with it. You have chased me off the board again. Well done.
For the record, I have carried out lots of feminist activism and helped out lots of women.

Are you a child? Are you incapable of engaging without your seeming hatred of Kellie Jay Keen?

Yes. I am sure that you have done a great deal to help lots of women. However, you now say, "You have to ask that? Seriously? Nobody would support that." when asked about the 'extreme violence'.

Really, you wonder why 'we have to ask that'?

Because you sat on the Portland thread and vilified women for defensive moves and could not acknowledge the violence that was being shown. Then took every opportunity to attempt to portray Kellie Jay in the worst possible light.

Even now you give a lame arsed 'nobody would support that'.

You completely lack self awareness OR you are so deeply entrenched in your own personal campaign of hatred towards someone you don't agree with. I mean, it could be something else. If so, which is it or what is it.

Do you think that other people who have also done a huge amount of good in the world cannot be so blinded by their own prejudices that they end up dismissing violence against women because 'they were associating with the wrong woman'?

VestofAbsurdity · 15/11/2022 17:52

beastlyslumber · 15/11/2022 17:42

No you don't get it, happylittlechicken. KJK is bad because:

Men at her events are violent
People come to her events who she doesn't know
She went to America for no reason
She lives in a big house
She has nice hair and gets her nails done
Er... she once stood next to someone who some other people said was a fascist

I think that's it. On another thread antelope went off on a big load of lies about her. Thread got deleted in the end but it was quite a state. Antelope is riven with jealousy and hatred. It's sad but also really fucking annoying.

You forgot:

Whenever KJK hires anyone to do anything for her like security she hasn't done a full MI5 sweep of their entire history, political affiliations, social media activity beforehand.

Whenever KJK is asked for a selfie with someone she has never met before and doesn't know and will never likely meet again she hasn't done a full MI5 sweep of their entire history, political affiliations, social media activity beforehand.

This means that KJK is a very, very, very bad person and deserves to be tied to a stake and burnt.

Chinzia · 15/11/2022 17:52

@antelopevalley The women in New York, they were put through the wringer, what a brave bunch. KJ organised a SFW whip-round to pay my fine, hundreds of pounds, truly grateful to all involved with SFW. She provides a network of support to us women done over by police/vile men, mothers fighting against affirming social services, us women who have been assaulted by Antifa (robbed of our AHF flag) Summer was depressed & SFW got me through. “Enemy to feminism” you don’t know her & your assessment is bullshit.

Loosefoot · 15/11/2022 17:53

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Helleofabore · 15/11/2022 17:56

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 17:32

Plan ahead and hire security. It is not difficult.

And you have hired the 'right type' of security against a crowd of violent protestors when you had very little police assistance? In the USA?

Wonderful.

Maybe next time, instead of demonising the woman, you could pass her along the firm's number for each of the cities she is going to instead of taking every opportunity to add to the Brighton Feminist's sin page of Kellie Jay Keen.

Wouldn't that be something? Put your experience to good use instead of vilifying someone who you simply don't agree with.

Datun · 15/11/2022 17:57

I've now seen the moob juggler. I thought it was the same person who was bare chested telling women he was going to beat them up.

What the bloody hell is wrong with these people?

This ideology is just the worst possible misogyny magnet that I can think of. All these women haters absolutely flock to it.

OmiOmy · 15/11/2022 18:05

There were big burly security blokes there and the police, right? Not sure what else could have been done except get more police there. Apart from cancelling, but why the fuck should they? It's Standing for Women's core ethos.

I do worry that the scenes from the States will be embolden the TRAs even more at events here.

Helleofabore · 15/11/2022 18:06

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 14:32

Anyone seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=G2DWd0nmUE0&feature=youtu.be

So, who is next then?

Helen Joyce? Maya Forstater?

Shall videos be made of them too?

How are their 'sin pages' going on the Brighton Feminist's web page? Filling up?

WarriorN · 15/11/2022 18:08

I keep seeing a video with the topless lads and one admiring their own "breasts" a lot, in a green hat.

No words really.

That I'm allowed to post

Finegar · 15/11/2022 18:12

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ScreamingMeMe · 15/11/2022 18:13

WarriorN · 15/11/2022 18:08

I keep seeing a video with the topless lads and one admiring their own "breasts" a lot, in a green hat.

No words really.

That I'm allowed to post

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Abhannmor · 15/11/2022 18:14

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