New York - Let Women Speak tour - violent attacks, arrests

[ArabellaScott]

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Hoping everyone is okay.

KJK was not at this event. So I'm even further mystified by why you're dismissing the women who were.

Oh that's right, you claim to be an activist.

Pretty sure if an event of yours had been terrorised like this, you'd think it was more than a 'bit' scary and you wouldn't be minimising the harm caused to women by male violence.

But I think we all know by now what your activism consists of.

Quoted out of context. I was talking about why most media are not interested.

Just seen a good comment elsewhere.

She arrived late- by which time the police had to form a barricade between the 10 protesters and the 100 counter protesters.
There were a lot of police who held the line- although it did look like it would break at times!
She asked the police to take her through and they said no- quite rightly. So she left and went for lunch according to her own video.
Fortunately a protestor was experienced and sensible enough to organise the women there into escorted groups so they could leave safely.
Police arrested a few TRAs.
Posies twitter seems to be having a go at the police- which is bizarre as they did more to keep women safe than she did.

No

Actually the context fits the purpose of my post and takes the previous posts on other threads where you similarly ignored the violence against women, yet made the bold statement on your feminist credentials there.

Or are you now acknowledging that those protesting are indeed intimidating women and that is a violent act? And that is before we cover the woman who have claimed to be assaulted on this rally as well?

@antelopevalley why do you hate KJK so much? What has she ever done to you to cause such bitterness and vitriol? Nearly every one of the posts I have seen from you Is criticising her. Why? If you don’t approve of her methods, just ignore her. If it causes you this much pain, I would strongly advise not engaging with her videos etc.

@RoxyAavlon Thanks. And yes it is why people throw tins of beans at paintings. Anyone who is an activist knows that most protests never get media coverage. Even when there is risks of violence between two sides, I have seen far larger situations get zero coverage,

When you say 'she', I presume you mean KJK?

Why are you still banging on about her?

Are you managing to somehow blame her for the violence, when she wasn't even there?

She is an enemy to feminism. I find it bizarre she us lauded on a supposedly feminist board.

Oh, ffs. This one-person hate campaign is tiresome and - in this case - entirely irrelevant.

How was it KJK's job to keep women safe in the face of a huge crowd of angry, potentially violent protestors? What action was she supposed to take?

antelope if you insist on discussing KJK why don't you make a wee thread on her and stop derailing this one? This one is about the protest in NY, which included many brave women, but not KJK.

How so? I’m not being goady, I’m genuinely confused. How is her defending womens rights being an enemy to feminism? Surely she is doing what a lot of women can’t do for many reasons and she should be applauded for it? Would you rather she kept silent and let trans ideology completely destroy womens rights?

If you organise an event then you do what you can to make it safe for women attending the event. Not just go to lunch. It was another woman attending the event who took measures to make sure women could leave safely.
So if you turn up and it gets nasty, do not expect KJK to do anything to try and keep you safe.

@Happylittlechicken KJK consistently promotes people who are anti-feminist like Matt Walsh and comes out with anti-feminist rhetoric such as you choose how you are treated.

I find it odd you’re condemning KJK for the event being unsafe but not the violent and abusive protestors. Wasn’t KJK condemned, I think by you, for hiring security at one of the events? So if she’s not supposed to hire security, how could she make the event safe?

She asked the police to take her through and they said no.
A woman who was already inside the kettled area organised the exit.

Somehow you have twisted that to make it KJK's fault. Its absurd and I'm not buying it. I can only think you've never been to a demo, you don't have an overview of the area and you can't act with the benefit of hindsight.

@Happylittlechicken I disagreed with her hiring far-right men as security. Proper security would be a good call.

That’s it? That’s why you hate her? Because she likes people you don’t like? That’s really… er…. Strange. I thought you were an adult. My mistake. Amazingly most adults who are in the same mindset manage to realise people have differing opinions and values, and may not use the same methods to achieve goals, but are still able to find common ground. May I ask what you have done to promote and defend womens rights, and what methods you have used?

@Thelnebriati I have been at so many demos..
The police were not going to take her through to join the 1- or so women who had come to her event. Why would they? It is not their job to help organise her event.

I will leave you with it. You have chased me off the board again. Well done.
For the record, I have carried out lots of feminist activism and helped out lots of women.

Not relevant to this thread.

Back to the topic at hand, those women were so, so brave. That TRA/MRA/Antifa shouting abuse was very scary. One of them shouted "faggot" too. Awful, awful awful.

Antelopevalley, who is definitely not a self-identified lying feminist with thousands of followers and who definitely isn't screengrabbing from the Actual Nutjob Left FB group, is busting her usual let's-trash-another-woman-but-pretend-it's-legitimate-criticism moves again, I see. There's no mute or block option on here either.

Even now, when women have been assaulted by a violent mob, the focus remains on one woman. I can't fathom despising one woman's campaigning so much that I'm prepared to overlook, or certainly remain studiously silent about, the risk to her, and others, safety. At this point, I'm having some difficulty distinguishing between TRAs and some supposedly on our side such are the similarities in mindset.

She did? Like proper far right neo nazis? That seems rather unlikely. Or do you mean a group not waving the communist flag? Maybe all the left wing security groups were too busy trampling womens rights so she took the best she could get. Are we supposed to vet everyone who works for us for unsavoury views now?