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Telegraph: Stonewall urges employers to give trans staff two email addresses so they can swap gender identities

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ResisterRex · 12/11/2022 18:30

Quite a long article, some highlights below:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/12/stonewall-urges-employers-give-trans-staff-two-email-addresses/

"Stonewall is urging employers to let staff have two email addresses to swap gender identities on different days, The Telegraph can reveal.
The contentious LGBT charity has drawn up new guidance for hundreds of organisations vying for spots on its “workplace equality index” (WEI), one of the UK's largest benchmarking schemes.
This newspaper has obtained the form that employers must submit for Stonewall’s 2023 index, with each question marked by the charity in return for a ranking score on its “top 100 employers” league table or a bronze, silver or gold award.
But MPs have branded it “frankly absurd” and “extremely concerning””_, with an ex-minister calling on the Government to ensure taxpayer cash is not wasted."

How could this not be open to misuse and/or abuse?

"In guidance beneath the question, Stonewall says “you will receive more marks if at least one example is specific to gender fluid people, for example the ability to have multiple passcards with different forms of gender expression or linked email accounts/intranet accounts with different names and photos”."

Of course their new set of rules seeks to add to procurement:

"Other questions on the new 40-page form ask employers whether they "do not award the contract" or "require improvements as a condition of contract" to potential suppliers that "do not meet LGBTQ+ inclusion scrutinn_y".
If a contract is awarded to a supplier, Stonewall suggests they could "include a broad diversity and inclusion slot in contract monitoring meetings”."
Not content with procurement rules, there's further requirements for buildings and "allies":
"The document also asks whether bodies have a "formal commitment to introduce gender-neutral facilities in all buildings" and "support all cis employees (including lesbian gay and bi employees) to become trans allies through training, programmes and/or resources"."

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MrsJamin · 12/11/2022 18:48

FFS

zanahoria · 12/11/2022 18:50

The contentious LGBT charity has drawn up new guidance for hundreds of organisations vying for spots on its “workplace gullibility index”

What a racket.

Giving money to Stonewall for training so you can be in their favoured 100.

zanahoria · 12/11/2022 18:51

Stonewall are the woke freemasons

WomenShouldWinWomensSports · 12/11/2022 18:53

So trans people can sock puppet all day long and "cis" people's role is to be their handmaidens.

Wow. What an information security nightmare to have to manage two logins/email addresses for each employer on the database. What would you even use as the primary key?

WomenShouldWinWomensSports · 12/11/2022 18:54

Sorry, fluffed up my second paragraph. It should read:

Wow. What an information security nightmare to have to manage two logins/email addresses for each "trans" employee on the database. What would you even use as the primary key?

334bu · 12/11/2022 18:56

So if you want to email these people, do you have to send it to them twice?

minipie · 12/11/2022 18:59

God, it’s almost like Stonewall are trying to peak trans people.

Speedweed · 12/11/2022 19:03

If I find myself working at a company where this comes in I'm going to demand a different pass for every day of the month, to meet my gender expression.

nilsmousehammer · 12/11/2022 19:06

Uhm, MPs are now aware that SW are requiring and incentivising proof of active discrimination against protected beliefs?

The clock really is ticking now.

CwtchyCiBach · 12/11/2022 19:07

What a pile of shite.

PonyPatter44 · 12/11/2022 19:15

I thought Stonewall were starting to be properly debunked now. A large number of government departments have withdrawn from their "scheme " and frankly, most government departments and private sector businesses are just getting on with their work without all this nonsense.

dropthevipers · 12/11/2022 19:23

Only two genders? How regressive-what about my cat gender?

DysonSpheres · 12/11/2022 19:35

Well I did my Ancestry DNA and it turns out, I have quite a wide genetic heritage. Some of the genetic expression is as small as 2% for certain regions and cultures, nevertheless, I think I should have an email for every one of these different cultural heritages, even though I have not so much as travelled to most of the regions and know next to nothing about most of the cultures. On days that I'm 'feeling' American Indian, or Filipino or Irish (15% altogether) I want an email that reflects this. It's only fair as someone may mis-culture me as Black British/Carribbean!!!

I am feeling massively discriminated against right now😔😢 and am disappointed that employers haven't implemented this. The govt needs to wake up. People like me have a range of cultural feelings.

I actually think I need different bank accounts on different days too and different NHS patient numbers.

Please support me to start a campaign on this.

Clymene · 12/11/2022 19:53

I posted this thread on Tuesday (but no one replied Sad ) but Conservatives for Women did an FOI which is what exposed this utter batshittery. Worth reading the linked article (even if the thread is boring!)

Stonewall Workplace Equality Index awards points for giving gender fluid employees multiple ID cards www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4672607-stonewall-workplace-equality-index-awards-points-for-giving-gender-fluid-employees-multiple-id-cards?msgid=-4672607#-4672607

EpicChaos · 12/11/2022 20:01

" zanahoria · Today 18:50
The contentious LGBT charity has drawn up new guidance for hundreds of organisations vying for spots on its “workplace gullibility index”
What a racket.
Giving money to Stonewall for training so you can be in their favoured 100. "

" Gullibility " a " racket " indeed! :-/

It seems to me, that companies could save themselves and their employees an awful lot of money, and or hassle, if they just tell stonewall to get lost!
It's just 2 words, with various iterations, where often the 2nd word is ' off ', so it doesn't take much thinking about to come up with a first word - so much easier than committing to paying for a training provider/new facilities/new buildings
( delete as appropriate ) not to mention coming a cropper regarding the EA and annoying/upsetting female members of staff!
So much easier and better all round if employers just tell SW to do one!

ResisterRex · 12/11/2022 20:09

It may be fully accessible here(?)

news.yahoo.com/stonewall-urges-employers-trans-staff-180000230.html

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ResisterRex · 12/11/2022 20:27

An archive here:

twitter.com/debbiehayton/status/1591526560989073408?s=46&t=ct-_9LCq4IgNwKlTRaGiaw

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MangyInseam · 12/11/2022 20:36

zanahoria · 12/11/2022 18:51

Stonewall are the woke freemasons

At least with the Masons you just have to help put people who give you the special handshake.

As far as I know they don't ask for money to tell you stupid ways to run your business.

WhereYouLeftIt · 12/11/2022 20:41

This is just so ridiculous, I am starting to wonder if Nancy Kelly is some sort of fifth columnist destroying Stonewall from the inside.

LizzieVereker · 12/11/2022 20:46

What utter nonsense.

What if you email them@Identity A, and it’s urgent, but they’re Identity B at the moment, so they don’t see it?

jay55 · 12/11/2022 21:04

Can't imagine how impressed clients would be to find they need to use one email address on Mondays and Wednesdays and another the rest of the week. Would it be misgendering to always cc the second identity?

ResisterRex · 12/11/2022 21:05

Who wants bigoted clients?

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PissedOffAmericanWoman · 12/11/2022 21:09

Do entitled. There is nothing they won’t demand. They just want the entire world to fall at their feet.

Fenlandia · 12/11/2022 21:17

WomenShouldWinWomensSports · 12/11/2022 18:54

Sorry, fluffed up my second paragraph. It should read:

Wow. What an information security nightmare to have to manage two logins/email addresses for each "trans" employee on the database. What would you even use as the primary key?

Primary keys are LiTeRaL ViOllLeNce

FemaleAndLearning · 12/11/2022 21:28

Keep going Stonewall, organisations are going to quietly move away.
Isn't there a male police officer who has two ID cards/passes?

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