Telegraph: Stonewall urges employers to give trans staff two email addresses so they can swap gender identities

[ResisterRex]

Quite a long article, some highlights below:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/12/stonewall-urges-employers-give-trans-staff-two-email-addresses/

"Stonewall is urging employers to let staff have two email addresses to swap gender identities on different days, The Telegraph can reveal.
The contentious LGBT charity has drawn up new guidance for hundreds of organisations vying for spots on its “workplace equality index” (WEI), one of the UK's largest benchmarking schemes.
This newspaper has obtained the form that employers must submit for Stonewall’s 2023 index, with each question marked by the charity in return for a ranking score on its “top 100 employers” league table or a bronze, silver or gold award.
But MPs have branded it “frankly absurd” and “extremely concerning””_, with an ex-minister calling on the Government to ensure taxpayer cash is not wasted."

How could this not be open to misuse and/or abuse?

"In guidance beneath the question, Stonewall says “you will receive more marks if at least one example is specific to gender fluid people, for example the ability to have multiple passcards with different forms of gender expression or linked email accounts/intranet accounts with different names and photos”."

Of course their new set of rules seeks to add to procurement:

"Other questions on the new 40-page form ask employers whether they "do not award the contract" or "require improvements as a condition of contract" to potential suppliers that "do not meet LGBTQ+ inclusion scrutinn_y".
If a contract is awarded to a supplier, Stonewall suggests they could "include a broad diversity and inclusion slot in contract monitoring meetings”."
Not content with procurement rules, there's further requirements for buildings and "allies":
"The document also asks whether bodies have a "formal commitment to introduce gender-neutral facilities in all buildings" and "support all cis employees (including lesbian gay and bi employees) to become trans allies through training, programmes and/or resources"."

"Other questions on the new 40-page form ask employers whether they "do not award the contract" or "require improvements as a condition of contract" to potential suppliers that "do not meet LGBTQ+ inclusion scrutinn_y".
If a contract is awarded to a supplier, Stonewall suggests they could "include a broad diversity and inclusion slot in contract monitoring meetings”."

Is that actually legal? Aren't they encouraging organisations to discriminate on the grounds of protected beliefs? Encouraging people to take "ally training" also sounds dodgy as hell - I particularly hate how they named lesbians as a group that might need to be trained as trans allies.

Is someone else going to have to do what Allison Bailey did before organisations start getting the message? That case made it clear that following Stonewall advice can be illegal discrimination (but it's the responsibility of the suckers paying Stonewall, not Stonewall themselves, who are so self-evidently idiotic that it's your own fault if you take them seriously.)

I bring you trigender!

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1591875020040667136

“This person identifies as trigender because she has 3 genders like a triangle”

I have no idea what pronouns to use but this person IDs as male, female, and non-binary all day every day, and there is no variation or being more one than the other (two) hence trigender.

Ta da!

PS Like pronouns I also have no idea why the bosom hike at the beginning.

The way they are trying to implement the awarding of contracts is chilling indeed. And they have done this to raise gender to be the same level of importance in an organisation as climate and sustainability and basic human rights issues.

These utter charlatans have elevated gender identity to the same level as ensuring workers are paid a living wage, are not slaves or exploited workers, and have safe work conditions!!!

I suspect one of the best ways to show the issues with this multi ID palaver is to just take it to extremes as people have suggested. Have all the genders and make the organisation get written advice from Stonewall (and demand written confirmation to you ) on how to best manage it.

And I think it is plausible at this stage to have a real time issue of instant gender switching.

It is ridiculous that genders are restricted to discrete days. That is not even believable really. I mean, it may be necessary for those who require the physical embodiment of their gender to be clear. But how old fashioned.

Surely true gender expression doesn’t require any particular style of dress or whatever, so gender can be as fleeting as a millisecond. Imagine using a dog gender ID at 10.00 am and then receiving those pronouns as cat gender at 10.01 am. The damage could be immeasurable!!!

I really cannot understand why this restricted to days I some people’s minds. It is almost like it involves stereotyped presentation ….

By the way, my employer should also accommodate my specific needs for being able to modify my presentation as the gender identities change. And if that requires me to be in a changing room ten times a minute, or ten times an hour, they must accommodate me.

And speaking of time…. Since I refuse to accept my biological sex or my gender identity being defined, I also refuse to accept any categorisation of time. It is simply a theory this breaking the day into 12 hours broken down into segments of 60!

I operate on my own time which I call x!kix time and that needs to be learned and accommodated for too.

Wouldn't it be easier to just have one email address.

[email protected].

Problem solved.

Exactly! How can they really think this is a good idea, it just proves how much all this gender stuff is a load of rubbish, if you can be one thing one day and another thing the next. They really have lost the plot!

She would require three email addresses to use simultaneously and would demand you reply to her using every email address.

She’d spend so much time being huffy at others for not using all three addresses that she wouldn’t actually get any work done, and would therefore risk being dismissed from her job, at which point she’d accuse her employer of “transphobia”, forcing everyone to tiptoe around her to ensure they don’t ever upset her again, thereby allowing the employer to keep its Stonewall ranking/gold stars on the reward chart.

That won't work.

The gender fluid police officer uses Callum and Abi. So it would be literal violence to force someone like them to choose a single initial

These are pertinent points, and your use of “charlatan” very apt.

I know many employers have already stopped paying thousands of pounds to SW every year for the privilege of using its own self-designed, self-accredited award scheme 🤦‍♀️but surely others will follow suit after this? Shocking that many of these organisations are government funded. Taxpayers’ money is going towards these “initiatives”.

Meanwhile, outside in the real world, mosts adults are concerned about more pressing issues such as rising household costs, and there are children going to school every day hungry.

Stonewall is becoming a parody of its risible self.

I can't wait to see my first signature:

Please note I work Monday-Weds and Fridays and I change my pronouns as the week commences.
He/him Mondays
She/they Tuesdays
They/them Wednesdays
She/they Fridays

Please ensure that all emails sent after the close of the working day need to be appropriately applied for the next working day so that I do not have to open an incorrectly pronouned response as doing so means I may need 3 weeks off work with 'Stress'.

^I am me on Monday
My authentic self on Tuesday
I'm someone else on Wednesday
And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday
I won't chill on Sunday^

Very clever. May be middle aged but I get this.

😂

Email address for use in anything sent to me which I will first see on Monday: [email protected]. Please recall these emails and re-send to the address below if I haven't replied by close of play on Monday.

Email address for use in anything sent to me which I will first see on Tuesday: [email protected]. Please recall these emails and re-send to the address below if I haven't replied by close of play on Tuesday.

Email address for use in anything sent to me which I will first see on Wednesday: [email protected]. Please recall these emails if I haven't replied by close of play on Wednesday and start again on Monday (see below).

Just a heads up, I wouldn't actually bother emailing me on Fridays, as I usually spend most of that day in HR following up on all the misgendering grievances I've put in earlier in the week.

It is really clever of stonewall to include procurement.

According to google, public sector procurement is £379 billion per year. It will cover sp many industies, from IT to construction to food services to charity. All these companies required to follow 'stonewall law,' to bid for contracts.

it is a bit like a MLM.

Admittedly, I don't run a business or any other organisation and never have. But if I did, in the current climate, I'd be looking at all our outgoings and considering where we could make cutbacks without affecting customer service and employee wellbeing. Turn down the heating in the office? Not pay a Christmas bonus this year? Change suppliers and risk a quality reduction or poorer delivery times?

Or ... just forget about Stonewall's index and get our HR staff working on actual HR issues instead of spending endless hours filling in the form and doing the exhaustive research into our suppliers needed to move up one place? How much business does it bring in? How many good employees does it convince to work here, or to carry on working here? How many suppliers does it influence to do business with us?

@ResisterRex

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It is like a MLM @GoTeamRocket

It's not just central government that does procurement either - all big corporates run tender processes for their supplier contacts and many of them now have ESG measures written into them. Adding stonewall law is a brilliant ruse to embed them right across the public and private sectors.

I'm not even sorry!!! 😂

All those replies to Debbie heytons tweet someone linked saying haven’t you idiots heard of aliases. Well, quite. We understand that the email to Roberta will appear in my inbox the same way the emails to Robert will. But, what’s the point if no one knows to use them on different days? Do I have to read emails calling me Robert on girl days? Do I reply from my other email? Do I get upset if no one can get it right? If we have multiple intranet identities do both call through to me? (Intranet identities/ work personnel lists are more complex than email aliases). The training question raised above applies of course. If you use jira or similar will people have to choose who to assign your things to? Which you? Then in completed tasks tracking or workload management aggregate them back? Not a standard feature, maybe they can define you and your personalities as a team and group tasks that way. But if you have a daily scrum or similar, and it’s a Robert day and what happens when they go through Roberta’s tasks? Do you have to update on them? Surely not!
Someone at stonewall is confusing gender fluid with multiple personality disorders.

I hadn't even thought of the private sector. It does give them a massive reach.

😂😂😂

So, if you have your two emails and you open your bloke one but then sign it as your non bloke one, do you have to report yourself to HR so you get a warning for misgendering/deadnaming (cos it isn't your name that minute)?

Which one of you gets the warning?
Or do both of you?

Officersmith@police withnothingbettertodo.co.uk

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