The police

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I was just thinking that the GC analysis is the only one that can explain the behaviour of police forces up and down the country.

The liberal position is “It’s awful that the police are institutionally racist and misogynist, but it’s great that they stand up for LGBTQ+ people!”

No. The promotion of trans ideology is part of the misogyny.

Hi.

Yes, they are as I have already said.

They have even arrested a woman, for something she didn't post, which hasn't been deemed offensive and they still have not returned all the IT equipment that they siezed from the whole of her family, which even if she did post it, isn't even a crime, or a non-crime incident.

Hi,
I wasn’t aware, as I have already said. Thank you to those who took the time to list the names of women abused by the police and put under false arrest.

Define the word 'done' then.

Job written off at source without deployment
Job attended and further enquirers
Job attended and safeguarding taking ages to sort out
Job attended and no realistic lines to progress
Job attended and suspect charge & remanded

ArabellaScott
Hate speach & harassment
We've done all this in the previous thread on the police being too woke - there is no such offence as 'stickers' but there is harassment & mal comms etc. What is harassment for one may not be for another etc How the initial call may not be how the actual crime plays out but the initial call my lead onto further enquiries being required etc etc

it went on for about 30 pages if you want to re-read

Charley50
Sorry, not going disclose which force i work for after previous problems that caused me & my family with death threats etc etc.

It's one of those things where you start off thinking 'that's utterly ridiculous, it can't possibly be true' and then you find out more and you think 'holy shit, It's definitely happening' and then you realise that the effect of institutional capture (Police, Government, Universities etc) is silencing women. Political lobby groups have been deliberately misinforming organisations of the law 'as they wish it to be, not as it is'. The judiciary are receiving training and advice from such groups which they won't disclose. Schools are refusing to inform parents as to what is in lesson plans so that they can make an informed decision whether or not to withdraw their children from the lessons.

It sounds utterly bizarre. But it's happening.

@Waitwhat23
Yes, that was what was running through my mind. It just seemed so bizarre. But then I googled the list of women and followed the links and was shocked. How long has this been going on? Is it related to how the police went mad with covid rules- I read about a disabled woman being arrested for resting on a park bench for “too long” and they declared it was breaking lockdown rules. From what I understand the covid police powers were never rolled back. Is this them finding new excuses to abuse women?

Whatever the definition, DOING anything about a woman [like arresting her and taking away her and her family's IT] who didn't post memes on an internet site would be, by your very own definition, only happen once all the other things that need DOING like safeguarding, burglaries and domestic violence were DONE.

So as these things were DONE, ie women arrested, then we can only assume by your defintion, that everything else had been DONE and nothing more important needed DOING.

DO you still not understand?

Onnabugeisha
I once arrested someone for wishing his ex-partner 'all the best' on social media. He later went on Facebook etc to complain "...I can't believe they have arrested me for simply wishing someone all the best..."

He failed to mention the years of stalking & harassment he had subjected his ex-partner to and that he had breached a restraining order by sending the message. And to me it was obvious he was doing it to tell his ex 'I'm still here - you haven't got rid of me' and he was doing it to drive her into the floor.

But on the face of it - it looks like I arrested him for sending someone a greeting.

AlisonDonut
Which is exactly as I described it then.....

So once everything is 'done' comms will start to go through the non-emergency job pending queue.

Whats your issue with this then?

Do we just ignore this queue

@Felix125
That is true, there’s often a backstory.

It's a mix of institutional misogyny, being deliberately misadvised by lobby groups and the desire to rise in the ranks of the Stonewall Diversity Champion Top 100 - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/08/exclusive-police-forces-threatened-legal-action-links-stonewall/

A lot of it links back to the Denton document -
www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists/

I don't know how much of it links to covid powers. It seems to be more linked with an institutional hatred of women to be honest.

No you said woke stuff doesn't happen until all the important stuff is sorted.

Which if it IS happening [which it is because we see it happening], means that either you are wrong, and woke stuff is indeed being put in front of important stuff, or you are wrong in that there is no other important stuff.

I know they aren't hiring people with an ounce of reasoning capabilities but you are just embarassing yourself now.

I think what @Felix125 is saying is that police work is like a priority list of multiple tasks that are all being pushed along. The priority stuff gets pushed as far as it can for that day first, then when nothing more can be done to progress them on that day, then they go to the lower priority stuff.

Crimes generally aren’t things that can be solved by focussing on one crime to exclusion of all else. There’s only so much can be done in any one day. So while waiting for interviews to be done and transcribed, or lab results to come back, or a suspect to be found and arrested, the police will work on the next thing on the list in the meantime.

Then you have new cases starting each day. So it’s never a case of the most important things always being 100% done before you start on the lower priority stuff. Like a chef in a kitchen with 100 burners, there is always a pot simmering on each one and you bounce back and forth with the ones on the back burners not getting as much attention.

Onnabugeisha
Precisely - once all the important stuff is progressed as far as it can, then the next important stuff can be considered.

I'm not sure why AlisonDonut can't grasp this?

Probably the fault of TV & films. In every murder mystery or crime show they always show a detective and partner doing nothing but that one case the whole way through until it is solved and the murderer/criminal safely awaiting trial.

So not surprised people would have impression that cases are worked one by one with a dedicated detective and partner. The reality is like with any other job, you probably have an overflowing inbox and are working what? Dozens? All at once? I don’t know your workload but simple maths of # reports to # police would indicate it’s not a 1:1 ratio of police:crime. And that’s before even deducting time spent just patrolling or doing crowd control or security.

I think what @Felix125 is saying is that police work is like a priority list of multiple tasks that are all being pushed along. The priority stuff gets pushed as far as it can for that day first, then when nothing more can be done to progress them on that day, then they go to the lower priority stuff.

What Felix has been saying for weeks is 'it doesn't happen'. He is gaslighting you and anyone else that thinks the police are not targetting women who say things on the internet. Because they are.

Has there been a study showing that women are more likely than men to be investigated by the police for SM/internet posts?

I see it’s happening to women, unjustly so, but I would love to see any statistical info showing that women are being disproportionately targeted?

Does ONS track police activity to this degree?

As you can see the police won't even admit it is happening.

I guess you are new to all this slight of hand that has been going on for the last 6 ish years.

First you'd have to define 'woman' and then 'investigation' and then 'disproportionate' as many think it is all justified [as your post just yesterday ago showed].

AlisonDonut
if you think that a woke type incident with no immediate threat, harm or risk, is more a priority than an ongoing violent domestic assault, then you are miles off.

Honestly.

It's like talking to a toddler.

And to add to the horror show of Gwent Police we have this reported today:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11422497/Serving-officer-Lancashire-Police-charged-attempted-murder.html

There is something rotten in the Police and it stinks. The only way to clear it out and restore public faith and trust and ensure that the public still give consent to being policed is to have a full, unequivocal, transparent, no holds barred Public Enquiry.

Public faith and trust in the Police is tumbling - polls bear this out. Surely as a police officer @Felix125 you would want to stop this? And that means (1) accepting that it is happening (2) accepting the reasons why it is happening. Weasel words and statements like its not all Police Officers, it's not everywhere it's just a few bad apples just won't cut it any more.

This just isn't good enough:

At the time, Deputy Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman said: 'This outcome sends a clear message that these kinds of behaviours will not be tolerated within Gwent Police.

'The public expect high standards of integrity from us and where officers abuse their position of power they will be held to account
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'Over the past three years we've reflected on behaviours and changed our culture.'

The culture should never have been allowed to get into that state in the first fucking place and it shouldn't need three fucking years to reflect on it.

AlisonDonut
So, you honestly think that emergency jobs are just ignored and units sent to woke jobs on the queue instead in order to specifically target women?

VestofAbsurdity
I agree - and have said so on here
Anyone corrupt should be gone
Anyone with offences to their name should not be considered - whether this is assaults to speeding offences

Whilst you're still struggling with the word 'done'

AlisonDonut
So, you honestly think that emergency jobs are just ignored and units sent to woke jobs on the queue instead in order to specifically target women?

What? That's not what she's said at all!

<pictures Alison screaming into a pillow somewhere>

I said:
if you think that a woke type incident with no immediate threat, harm or risk, is more a priority than an ongoing violent domestic assault, then you are miles off.

AlisonDonut replied:
"...It's like talking to a toddler..." and "...woke stuff is indeed being put in front of important stuff, or you are wrong in that there is no other important stuff..."

So, if you can actual explain what they meant - I'm all ears