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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Legal change could make Scotland into a trans haven

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Igneococcus · 30/10/2022 05:48

Not only for people from the rUK but from other countries as well it seems:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9d26228a-5703-11ed-a3b8-342870f8e8b9?shareToken=f502598a888cce4ae0a39881f395b6c8

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KittenKong · 30/10/2022 09:13

Until they realise that it’s a sexist society (but hey it doesn’t quite wok for ‘some girls’ does it) and if there’s a huge crowd, how special will they be?

Plus Scottish women will get to the point when it’s ‘FTS’ and all hell will beak lose.

pattihews · 30/10/2022 09:30

Hold on a moment, Wales has declared its intention to make itself the most welcoming and accepting country in Europe (possibly the world) when it comes to LGB and TQ+ people. It doesn't seem to have dawned on them how that's going to work when LGB people are same-sex attracted and TQ+ people are anti same-sex attraction, but then wee Nicola doesn't seem to have come up with a solution to that problem either.

I suggest the TQ+ all go to Scotland and Scotland sends its LGB people down to Wales and then perhaps we can all live happily ever after.

KittenKong · 30/10/2022 09:39

Oh come on, haven’t we suffered enough. I hear Canada is very welcoming (but if you are a woman).

Baldieheid · 30/10/2022 09:52

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KittenKong · 30/10/2022 09:55

Do they think it’s free medical treatment, free accommodation, free jobs, 24/7 police protection, and treated like royalty?

Cismyfatarse · 30/10/2022 09:56

It seems we have been wrong all along. Wee Nic is simply trying to repopulate the Highlands and find people to manage the sheep on all those abandoned crofts.

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Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 10:04

pattihews · 30/10/2022 09:30

Hold on a moment, Wales has declared its intention to make itself the most welcoming and accepting country in Europe (possibly the world) when it comes to LGB and TQ+ people. It doesn't seem to have dawned on them how that's going to work when LGB people are same-sex attracted and TQ+ people are anti same-sex attraction, but then wee Nicola doesn't seem to have come up with a solution to that problem either.

I suggest the TQ+ all go to Scotland and Scotland sends its LGB people down to Wales and then perhaps we can all live happily ever after.

Just for the record many gay and lesbians are fine with the TQ some are not yes but many are so stop stereotyping lgb people

Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 10:06

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Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 10:07

Yes many will move to scotland as England is becoming a hate full place to many diff minorities with cruella saying she has a dream to send people to Rwanda it’s like we gone 1930s Germany. Maybe all the nasty people that hate trans people should move out of scotland if they don’t like how progressive it’s becoming?

Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 10:08

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Trans people I know don’t wear wigs but nice try

KittenKong · 30/10/2022 10:09

People hate the fact that womens rights are being trampled. That what people hate.

Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 10:10

KittenKong · 30/10/2022 10:09

People hate the fact that womens rights are being trampled. That what people hate.

If it’s just that they wouldn’t say stuff about trans people being beaten up sorry don’t believe it’s just that or they woukdnt say nasty shit about wigs etc it’s really bad faith tye stuff written on here it’s very obvious to

Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 10:11

KittenKong · 30/10/2022 10:09

People hate the fact that womens rights are being trampled. That what people hate.

One last thing there are many more women like me that don’t think our rights are being trampled so yes you are very entitled to your views but it’s not just about women because if they were sorted still be comments about men in wigs etc which is disgusting

LurkinBookseller · 30/10/2022 10:14

Right, you pesky women (dinosaur category), you’ve had your Sunday morning scalding, you’ve been telt damnit!

Igneococcus · 30/10/2022 10:17

@Freespirit42 I'm a non-British person living in a rural part of Scotland and if you believe the claim that Scotland is more progressive than the rest of the UK you really have no fucking clue. You could have a chat with my children about the shite they had to put up with over the years.

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Boomboom22 · 30/10/2022 10:19

Hilarious that free-spirit uses the insult chav 🤣 really does show the class divide. Working class mining towns = nasty evil violent poor who don't buy into the new religion, tw = actually most oppressed usually white middle class men.
Probably thinks they're a socialist too. 🤣🤣🤣

pattihews · 30/10/2022 10:22

Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 10:04

Just for the record many gay and lesbians are fine with the TQ some are not yes but many are so stop stereotyping lgb people

Just for the record some of us here, including me, are lesbian. We understand what's going on and the erasure of women's rights and we're very much not okay with it. And no one, including you, obtained our consent before attempting to erase lesbians as a category. Because once a single man has been accepted as a lesbian, the category lesbian (same-sex attracted women) no longer exists.

HepzibahGreen · 30/10/2022 10:24

Blimey. I don’t agree with changes to the GRA, I think 16 is way too young to be messing with medical “gender changes” or whatever , and I think women are entitled to single sex spaces but…. You know when some people point at MN FWR and say “transphobic” and certain FWR members go all wide-eyed and say “ where? Show us the transphobic posts”…
Well, they are there ^^^^^^^

Not doing women or the actual issues at stake any favours at all.

TeenDivided · 30/10/2022 10:30

HepzibahGreen · 30/10/2022 10:24

Blimey. I don’t agree with changes to the GRA, I think 16 is way too young to be messing with medical “gender changes” or whatever , and I think women are entitled to single sex spaces but…. You know when some people point at MN FWR and say “transphobic” and certain FWR members go all wide-eyed and say “ where? Show us the transphobic posts”…
Well, they are there ^^^^^^^

Not doing women or the actual issues at stake any favours at all.

If you see any transphobic posts then report them to MN and if they agree they will delete them.

BillyBigot · 30/10/2022 10:31

I don't think wee Nicola cares that much about trans rights. Why would she have this obsession with one thing (apart from independence). But its a good way of try to destabilise the UK by trying to push contrasting laws in a boarderless country, where the impact on the rest of the UK would be significant. What better way to force the independence agenda. Nicola doesn't care about trans rights, she cares about independence, and will do what ever it takes to get there.

pattihews · 30/10/2022 10:35

HepzibahGreen · 30/10/2022 10:24

Blimey. I don’t agree with changes to the GRA, I think 16 is way too young to be messing with medical “gender changes” or whatever , and I think women are entitled to single sex spaces but…. You know when some people point at MN FWR and say “transphobic” and certain FWR members go all wide-eyed and say “ where? Show us the transphobic posts”…
Well, they are there ^^^^^^^

Not doing women or the actual issues at stake any favours at all.

Are you ^^^ing at me? What's transphobic about saying that men who identify as lesbians are erasing the category 'lesbian'?

FemaleAndLearning · 30/10/2022 10:45

This is the problem when we mess with language and have words that have more than one meaning. For some a lesbian is same sex attracted for others it's same gender attracted. The word lesbian is taken and means same sex attraction of women, the adult human type. The word woman is also taken. Language does change but the meaning of these words will not. TQ need to find their own words or just make some up. They have been very good at making up words so it shouldn't be too difficult. There wouldn't be so much conflict if women's words and their meanings had not be colonised by men.

Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 11:11

Boomboom22 · 30/10/2022 10:19

Hilarious that free-spirit uses the insult chav 🤣 really does show the class divide. Working class mining towns = nasty evil violent poor who don't buy into the new religion, tw = actually most oppressed usually white middle class men.
Probably thinks they're a socialist too. 🤣🤣🤣

Christ you don’t know me I am working class and am poor I just happen to think working class doesn’t mean act like ignorant baboons. It doesn’t cost anything to be nice and not be homophobic or transphobic I think that belittles the working class. I live in a council flat but I know that being decent is just human and we don’t all have to be chavish

Freespirit42 · 30/10/2022 11:13

Boomboom22 · 30/10/2022 10:19

Hilarious that free-spirit uses the insult chav 🤣 really does show the class divide. Working class mining towns = nasty evil violent poor who don't buy into the new religion, tw = actually most oppressed usually white middle class men.
Probably thinks they're a socialist too. 🤣🤣🤣

I live in what some would say is a shit hole of a town and yes I lean on the left spectrum but that don’t mean I am nasty to minorities that’s an excuse plus it’s not a religion see what I mean about this isn’t just about being about womens spaces this is blatant hating on trans people