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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman harassed in women's bathroom by a gender critical woman who thinks she is trans, she is upset by the experience.

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MargaritaPie · 29/10/2022 23:16

twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1586295024672808961

Woman harassed in women's bathroom by a gender critical woman who thinks she is trans, she is upset by the experience.
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JustWaking · 30/10/2022 07:42

If it were real, she'd have filmed the woman's face.

But then someone would probably have recognised the woman and pointed out that she is

CavaggiosCat · 30/10/2022 07:42

Meh haven't read the full thread but if men hadn't started invading our bathrooms we wouldn't be on such high alert! 🤷🏽‍♀️

JustWaking · 30/10/2022 07:44

... a TRA

(sorry - don't mean to keep posting half posts. Page keeps jumping on my phone so that the 'post' button ends up where I was typing. Very annoying)

DriftwoodOnTheShore · 30/10/2022 07:44

Like this really happened.

Sapphiresanddiamonds · 30/10/2022 07:46

Pixiedust1234 · 30/10/2022 00:31

whats gender?

That's my question too. And why does anyone think it's ok to call me cis? I don't have a gender, but they think it's fine to pretend I do and use that term.

People who claim to be women because they put feminine clothes on get very angry if we won't play along with their name games, but females who know there's no such thing as gender still get called cis. Be kind clearly only works one way

OMG12 · 30/10/2022 07:47

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 30/10/2022 07:28

I think it’s a woman who is part of the Construction Industry Scheme for subcontractors, but how would @MargaritaPie know? Did she have her CSCS card dangling from a lanyard?

😂😂 maybe @MargaritaPie could clarify...

Let’s just hope they (or whatever their preferred pronoun of the day is) deducted the right amount of tax. Joking aside this will be Labours new tax - charging women for the audacity of claiming to be women and infiltrating on trans womens spaces and trying to steal their identities.

four legs good, two legs even better (esp when dressed in stockings and suspenders wearing stilettos which is apparently what it means to be a woman)

TeaKlaxon · 30/10/2022 07:47

I am shocked* that so called feminists when presented with evidence of a woman being harassed decide to:

(a) quibble about terminology; or

(b) claim she’s making it up.

There are LOTS of examples of women who are not transgender being harassed by transphobes in bathrooms.

And let’s remember that one of the high priestesses of transphobia, ‘Posie Parker’ has said that people should enter womens bathrooms to challenge trans people WITH GUNS. How might that have worked out in this case?

*JK I’m not shocked at all. Because transphobes here and elsewhere are actually about as far from feminism as it’s possible to get.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 30/10/2022 07:49

Discovereads · 30/10/2022 04:14

Not you too. Honestly. You don’t know the difference between a victim and a witness do you? The two girls are victims not witnesses. 🙄

A witness is a person, other than a defendant, who is likely to give evidence in court. All victims are also witnesses and should be treated as such

obviously a witness is someone who witnesses something but, as above, victims are also…obviously…witnesses

LiveInSunshine · 30/10/2022 07:50

I think even before, and aside from, ‘gender critical’ beliefs occasional bathroom conflict happens. My son’s friend is lightly built, long haired and very pretty. He dresses like a teen boy, and is very much a typical boy but still gets mistaken for a girl by people. He’s often approached or told off by men. Recently at a swimming pool a man told him he shouldn’t be in the wrong changing room and asked him to leave and go to his own changing room and another time I was approached about letting ‘my girl’ in the mens as it was ‘inappropriate’ at ‘her’ age.
Luckily he is a secure boy with no internal conflicts and a group of mates who will laugh and get involved teasing the accuser, but I’ve certainly seen times when he’s been approached in an intimidating way.
It’s daft though to suggest this is just gender critical women and something that wouldn’t otherwise happen.

MorningPlatypus · 30/10/2022 07:51

TeaKlaxon · 30/10/2022 07:47

I am shocked* that so called feminists when presented with evidence of a woman being harassed decide to:

(a) quibble about terminology; or

(b) claim she’s making it up.

There are LOTS of examples of women who are not transgender being harassed by transphobes in bathrooms.

And let’s remember that one of the high priestesses of transphobia, ‘Posie Parker’ has said that people should enter womens bathrooms to challenge trans people WITH GUNS. How might that have worked out in this case?

*JK I’m not shocked at all. Because transphobes here and elsewhere are actually about as far from feminism as it’s possible to get.

If yor priority as a feminist is giving men access to women's spaces, you're not a feminist. You're a men's rights activist.

Transwomen are men. That's factual and it's not transphobic to say so.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 30/10/2022 07:56

Yeah I’m not giving this clear bullshit oxygen other than to say it’s it interesting how Marg and our other regular scoldy visitors always want to make it about toilets

VinoDino · 30/10/2022 07:56

There are LOTS of examples of women who are not transgender being harassed by transphobes in bathrooms.

Present them here then.

If men didn't force themselves into spaces they shouldn't be in this wouldn't be happening, would it? (If it did indeed happen. Waiting for the LOTS of examples that probably won't come).

Asdavaluesausage · 30/10/2022 07:58

VinoDino · 30/10/2022 07:56

There are LOTS of examples of women who are not transgender being harassed by transphobes in bathrooms.

Present them here then.

If men didn't force themselves into spaces they shouldn't be in this wouldn't be happening, would it? (If it did indeed happen. Waiting for the LOTS of examples that probably won't come).

So you’ll be able to show us then?

NotBadConsidering · 30/10/2022 08:00

And let’s remember that one of the high priestesses of transphobia, ‘Posie Parker’ has said that people should enter womens bathrooms to challenge trans people WITH GUNS. How might that have worked out in this case?

No she did not. She challenged the notion on men seeing themselves as protectors because they carry guns when instead they should do more to actually protect women by campaigning and standing up for women’s spaces.

Sapphiresanddiamonds · 30/10/2022 08:00

There are LOTS of examples of women who are not transgender being harassed by transphobes in bathrooms.

Why do you think women might be fearful of men (and those who look male)? I'd say the issue lies with men, wouldn't you?

Ohnohedident · 30/10/2022 08:01

I smell bullshit.
Im almost six foot with broad shoulders. I wear mens clothes and have short hair most of the time. I am 55 yrs old.

I have NEVER EVER been spoken to, looked at funny or anything else while in woman's spaces.

Women can tell very easily someones sex.

VinoDino · 30/10/2022 08:02

@Asdavaluesausage show you what?

Brefugee · 30/10/2022 08:03

I am shocked that so called feminists when presented with evidence of a woman being harassed decide to:*

Well, we could adopt the TRA tactic of saying that it happens so rarely as to be negligible and we can safely ignore it.

But. I have mentioned the issue of people approaching butch lesbians in female toilets before, and have been told off for making up stories etc (i know several butch lesbians, many ex forces women do).

But people do make mistakes. Often it's uncomfortable. But i wonder how often it ends up like this? I've witnessed it - usually it ends up with embarassment, lots of apologies and awkward shuffling off

Asdavaluesausage · 30/10/2022 08:03

@VinoDino all these examples of women being harassed in bathrooms by people claiming they are not women. You said there were many examples so showing us a few will be easy won’t it?

Triselly · 30/10/2022 08:04

Discovereads · 29/10/2022 23:58

Yep this happens. More frequently now though because womens toilets obsessed fascists like KJK have emboldened some of their usually middle aged GC followers to harass and confront anyone who isn’t adhering to feminine stereotypes and performing woman correctly.

Truth is you can’t tell with 100% certainty what sex a person is just by looking at them.

I thought the victim handled it really well

‘Toilets obsessed fascists’ hahahahaha ok. Please tell that one to the women and girls who have been harassed and assaulted by males in their spaces.

AngelinaFibres · 30/10/2022 08:05

ItsLateHumpty · 29/10/2022 23:39

India Willoughby self describes as CIS….

Isn't India Willoughby a man.

VinoDino · 30/10/2022 08:06

Asdavaluesausage · 30/10/2022 08:03

@VinoDino all these examples of women being harassed in bathrooms by people claiming they are not women. You said there were many examples so showing us a few will be easy won’t it?

No @TeaKlaxon did. I was asking them to show us all these examples. That's the bold bit.

Asdavaluesausage · 30/10/2022 08:08

@VinoDino im sorry, mega quote fail there. Apologies

Asdavaluesausage · 30/10/2022 08:08

AngelinaFibres · 30/10/2022 08:05

Isn't India Willoughby a man.

iW also claims to have a cervix 😂😂.

VinoDino · 30/10/2022 08:09

Asdavaluesausage · 30/10/2022 08:08

@VinoDino im sorry, mega quote fail there. Apologies

I'm on the app, I struggle with quoting!

We'll both sit waiting patiently for these examples.

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