Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

[ArabellaScott]

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

Word on Twitter is KJK set up beside a school and the students came out the building to call her out on her hate. Further proof perhaps that the younger generation are more tolerant of transpeople than the older gen.

She set up in a public square. That it was beside a school was coincidence.

Do you read what you write?

Do you understand at all that yelling, screaming and deliberately drowning out women speaking is the antithesis of ‘tolerance’? Tolerance is letting people have their say even if you vehemently disagree.

But I guess if you change the meaning of woman, the meaning of tolerance is even easier to change isn’t it?

KJK then asked the principal to "make the kids go back inside". But wait, isn't that "cancelling" them? If KJK can have her say then so should everyone else, right?

They didn’t let people have their say in a respectful manner though, did they? Intimidating a group of mostly women by coming very close into where the group was and yelling slurs and generally intimidating women is not appropriate behaviour. Had they stayed up on the edge where they were at the start, fine. But they didn’t. Their behaviour was all
about intimidation and silencing women.

That you have posted this on this thread really shows you have little regard for the safety of women. For the safety of anyone who disagrees with you. I think we knew this, but thanks for the confirmation and the reminder.

Any comment?

Did you see the footage of the students then pushing around those from the rally who remained? That’s also acceptable to you?

It is right there on KJK’s channel.

Any comment?

The gender critical woman who was struck by a cream pie? My deepest condolences.

Snarky nasty comment about things being thrown at a woman for being at a rally. Wow. Every time you write here, Margarita, you are showing the disdain you feel for people of a certain sex.
When something hits you, you are scared. You don't go ' oh it is just a cream pie, hahahahaha, what a joke...'. Throwing stuff at people is not funny, it is never funny, stop treating it as a joke for godsake.

The dishonesty in groups attempting to deny that drowning out speakers and intimidation tactics is just more silencing of women and denial of free speech is becoming more and more apparent.

Imagine if people surrounded and screaming and banged pots and horns around any group of trans people to drown them out. Would they be acceptable?

I don’t think it is even acceptable to do it from outside a building.

So, No fucking way would it be acceptable to be done around another group who were discussing facets of their rights that are entirely legal. And I don’t think I would be alone on this board calling that behaviour out.

I think that any person who believes this behaviour is acceptable in any way is showing how extreme their own position is.

Let us not forget this.

One woman was attacked and injured by two young males.

twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1585502257033793537

Police reportedly refused to attend until they could be sure the police would be safe.

twitter.com/StandingforXX/status/1585369340798730240

That is very concerning if true.

Nothing really ever changes, does it.

The gender critical woman who was struck by a cream pie? My deepest condolences.

That's hilarious. If a GC woman did that to a trans person, you'd be screeching that it was attempted murder (and probably trying to pin it on Kiwi Farms).

the people who attacked the rally would see the men in those pictures as the baddies

and are completely unable to see that their behaviour is the same

how do you help people have some self reflection? (this is not a rhetorical question)

I reckon we should get ready to cue for the ‘of course those young students should not have assaulted the woman who was packing up. How dare you suggest that I would condone this?’

or as another poster said about Fred Sargeant being attacked, we should be just as prepared for: ‘she shouldn’t have been there, she shouldn’t have set up near a school and taunted those poor, poor students’.

Maybe we will get a ‘my condolences to her!’ again.

I doubt we will get the self-awareness of the acceptance of true extremist thinking or the self reflection that if a person is accepting of this truly extremist behaviour, what else is considered acceptable when it is not outside a very small group.

how do you help people have some self reflection? (this is not a rhetorical question)

I'm afraid any male willing to commit violent assault is not worth my time and energy to try and convince.

Rational people, caring people, thoughtful people, will watch a film of women speaking being attacked by men and draw their own conclusions. They won't need any help.

The people who it may be worth appealing to are the protestors who were there chanting at women, but not assaulting them.

I would hope that they would naturally be given pause for thought if they saw women assaulted and attacked in front of them.

And unsurprisingly, some people who use the dehumanising language of ‘GCs’, ‘gender crits’ , and terfs, will be unlikely to see that they have effectively dehumanised women who disagree with them enough that they can applaud women being silenced in any fashion, minimise women having objects thrown at them. It is likely that it will be hurriedly realised they have shown their hand too much and there will be outrage at the question of whether they support violence.

Yet, the pattern is all there to see.

Maybe the disingenuousness of ‘how is using ‘GC’s’ dehumanising’ will stop. But I doubt it.

The lack of symmetry has really bothered me lately. It is so fucking dishonest. Some people really are determined to continue to think it acceptable to dehumanise people who disagree yet if this board allowed people using terms like ‘the transes’ or ‘transgenders’ the outcry would be loud. And it should be.

But the use of these dehumanising terms is just a symptom of the overall hatred towards women who disagree. It is sealed by the minimising I have seen already on this thread.

"how do you help people have some self reflection?"

I have no idea, Bernard. There will be abusive men such as these at both protests who wish to harm and crush women and there minds will not be changed.

And then you have people who selectively stick their fingers in their ears saying La La La because for them to question their own ideology IS tantamount to physical violence. (I actually read something the other day about the brain responding in a similar fashion re the fight, flight reaction to both those types of threat).

Bloody hell. Just when I think I've started to plumb the sociopathy of it all it staggers me all over again.

Yes, the violence against women and girls is a feature, not a bug. The whole ideology attracts the worst lowlife's. They've suddenly found their 'special purpose'. Slavering over things being thrown at women gets them up in the morning.

Kellie Jay is absolutely correct in swerving Portland. Nothing she says, does, or advocates for, has even the slightest whiff of martyrdom about it.

She wants to expose the violence, not have herself and other women be victims of it.

I've just caught up with her video about it all kicking off in Portland. You can tell that she's reluctant to have to give it a miss. Nothing about this is having the slightest effect on her determination.

I don't really understand how the authorities in these towns can be so intimidated by these groups of violent men, though. Isn't it in the interests of their own citizens to clamp down on it?

i'm guessing they don't care.

I don't really understand how the authorities in these towns can be so intimidated by these groups of violent men, though. Isn't it in the interests of their own citizens to clamp down on it?

Bless you for not thinking they ARE the violent men.

Yes. It crossed my mind! But There are far more citizens than there are people in charge.

No, we don't need any bloody martyrs. Every woman involved should have her own safety as the first priority.

In starting the thread about the Dino emoji thing, I continue to listen and there is an interesting bit after on Antifa and the dismissal of their extremist activities as well.

From around 41 minutes. The Dino emoji piece started around 13 minutes.

Oh come on! It was only a bit of assault, not like they were misgendered or deadnamed or anything serious!

im starting to wonder if these posts from Margy are a cry for help.

This being the USA so police who all have guns...... please tell me I'm wrong about this?

Anyone noticed they’re getting worse now @MargaritaPie has lost KF. Almost like that was an outlet. Poor Marg

The Dems are set to lose the governorship of Oregon thanks to the shenanigans that the progressive left have tolerated for too long in Portland and elsewhere in the state. Voting is already underway IIRC.

"violent threats"

Cream pies, like Anita Bryant got (tho I'd contend that JKR is more like Anita Bryant).

Oh come off it. Women don't know if they will be hit with cream pies, bats with barbed wire, raped or murdered before the event. Attackers don't pre warn us before attacking us.

Actual assaults

twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1585502257033793537?s=61&t=PkKrY7SK78ibJWSQ8S6rEw