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Graham Norton has terminated his Twitter account after attacking JK Rowling

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SwanageBay · 17/10/2022 12:41

Well that's one less beardy man on there defending rape and death threats.

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TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2022 09:13

Implications I bet if it was the other way round that didn’t actually name jk rowling and I dunno graham happened to say some people are unhinged and nasty with their trans hate jk rowling would be all over that she loves to sue people and pile on folks

Hmm maybe take some legal advice if you're ever tempted to sue anyone yourself. This line of thinking could work out ... expensive for you. 😂

And has JKR ever sued anyone?

Better be careful, she might think about suing you for spreading false information about her.

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2022 09:15

And while we're on it, did we ever get any evidence of the great big pile on that GN was supposedly the victim of?

ReneBumsWombats · 18/10/2022 09:15

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:08

For what for basically saying he stands by women having death threats and rape threats which he didn’t ever say that and she knows it she’s very wrong with what she said

Here's the tweet.

The point she is clearly making is that if you dismiss what has happened to her as "accountability", then you must be including rape and death threats, since she's had enough of those to paper her house. If you don't believe death and rape threats are acceptable or "accountability", then you need to rethink your response to and defence of what's happened to her, because that's the reality of what it is.

In other words, she's accusing Norton, Bragg et al of dismissing and downplaying the seriousness of what happens to women who stick their heads above the parapet to speak up for women's rights.

Are you contesting?

Graham Norton has terminated his Twitter account after attacking JK Rowling
Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:19

And trans people are getting death and rape threats and yes she needs accountability for what she says to she doesn’t get a free pass. You wanna see the hate some of her followers dish out to

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:21

ReneBumsWombats · 18/10/2022 09:15

Here's the tweet.

The point she is clearly making is that if you dismiss what has happened to her as "accountability", then you must be including rape and death threats, since she's had enough of those to paper her house. If you don't believe death and rape threats are acceptable or "accountability", then you need to rethink your response to and defence of what's happened to her, because that's the reality of what it is.

In other words, she's accusing Norton, Bragg et al of dismissing and downplaying the seriousness of what happens to women who stick their heads above the parapet to speak up for women's rights.

Are you contesting?

But what was her original tweet before she tweeted that wasn’t so succinct was it

PoundShopPrincess · 18/10/2022 09:22

A grown man decides to leave social media and somehow the usual suspects blame JKR. They're always blaming her for something. They're furious they can't get her to sit down and shut up. None of this will impact her.

But Graham's decision to dismiss concerns over DV victims' safety as 'problematic' may impact Graham's book sales. I quite liked Graham. I bought his books. But they land differently knowing he went out of his way to throw women under the bus and wouldn't condemn threats against them.

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:24

Original tweet making it out that men with beards aka graham Norton was condoning death threats and rape he wasn’t he merely said listen to trans voices but you guys don’t want people to listen to trans voices as that would mean less hate

Graham Norton has terminated his Twitter account after attacking JK Rowling
Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:26

PoundShopPrincess · 18/10/2022 09:22

A grown man decides to leave social media and somehow the usual suspects blame JKR. They're always blaming her for something. They're furious they can't get her to sit down and shut up. None of this will impact her.

But Graham's decision to dismiss concerns over DV victims' safety as 'problematic' may impact Graham's book sales. I quite liked Graham. I bought his books. But they land differently knowing he went out of his way to throw women under the bus and wouldn't condemn threats against them.

he didn’t say that though did he he literally said there is accountability for what people say which yes there should be and we should listen to trans voices when discussing trans issues he never mentioned death or rape threats that was all made up by jk rowling

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2022 09:26

And trans people are getting death and rape threats and yes she needs accountability for what she says to she doesn’t get a free pass. You wanna see the hate some of her followers dish out to

So she's responsible for other peoples tweets, is that right? Is her going to sue her for that too?

LMAO. I want to see this played out in court now. It'll be better than the mermaids fiasco 🤣

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:28

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2022 09:26

And trans people are getting death and rape threats and yes she needs accountability for what she says to she doesn’t get a free pass. You wanna see the hate some of her followers dish out to

So she's responsible for other peoples tweets, is that right? Is her going to sue her for that too?

LMAO. I want to see this played out in court now. It'll be better than the mermaids fiasco 🤣

No but you can’t have it both ways you can’t say I get death and rape threats and then get your followers by your tweets to pile on other people and have no accountability for that what I want is folks like you to realise that you can’t be nasty to both sides

Helleofabore · 18/10/2022 09:28

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:21

But what was her original tweet before she tweeted that wasn’t so succinct was it

And here we have that hypocrisy again.

A tweet referring to ‘beardy men’ is being used as abuse so vile that a poster is declaring Norton should sue vs two answers to questions specifically referring to JK Rowling, where Norton minimises and misrepresents ‘cancel culture’ and then seems to imply that she shouldn’t be discussing an issue (by narrowing the focus to medicalisation of children) being handwaved as ‘not directed at her’.

It really does seem that people cannot see their own hypocrisy.

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:29

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2022 09:26

And trans people are getting death and rape threats and yes she needs accountability for what she says to she doesn’t get a free pass. You wanna see the hate some of her followers dish out to

So she's responsible for other peoples tweets, is that right? Is her going to sue her for that too?

LMAO. I want to see this played out in court now. It'll be better than the mermaids fiasco 🤣

The mermaids fiasco that has had loads of hate full trolls piling on a charity so they can’t support kids that may have no whee to turn now you happy with thatb

RealFeminist · 18/10/2022 09:30

THEY JUST WANT TO WHEE EH

ReneBumsWombats · 18/10/2022 09:30

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:28

No but you can’t have it both ways you can’t say I get death and rape threats and then get your followers by your tweets to pile on other people and have no accountability for that what I want is folks like you to realise that you can’t be nasty to both sides

What has JKR ever said that is in any way comparable to death and rape threats? Screenshots, please.

And if there's nothing, say there's nothing.

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:30

Helleofabore · 18/10/2022 09:28

And here we have that hypocrisy again.

A tweet referring to ‘beardy men’ is being used as abuse so vile that a poster is declaring Norton should sue vs two answers to questions specifically referring to JK Rowling, where Norton minimises and misrepresents ‘cancel culture’ and then seems to imply that she shouldn’t be discussing an issue (by narrowing the focus to medicalisation of children) being handwaved as ‘not directed at her’.

It really does seem that people cannot see their own hypocrisy.

No hypocrisy what’s wrong with listening to I dunno actual trans people or experts not the tweets of a woman obsessed and has no knowledge

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:31

ReneBumsWombats · 18/10/2022 09:30

What has JKR ever said that is in any way comparable to death and rape threats? Screenshots, please.

And if there's nothing, say there's nothing.

She doesn’t have to by the dog whistles she throws out her followers do that don’t they

Clymene · 18/10/2022 09:31

he didn’t say that though did he he literally said there is accountability for what people say which yes there should be and we should listen to trans voices when discussing trans issues he never mentioned death or rape threats that was all made up by jk rowling

He did say her views were problematic in the interview in the Sunday Times I helpfully provided a share token for on the thread. He then, a month later, was asked if if he condemned the behaviour of people who made threats to Rowling and refused to answer the question.

Don't make stuff up. It makes you look a bit stupid and like you don't have a decent argument.

littlbrowndog · 18/10/2022 09:32

RealFeminist · 18/10/2022 09:30

THEY JUST WANT TO WHEE EH

🤣🤣🤣

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:32

Clymene · 18/10/2022 09:31

he didn’t say that though did he he literally said there is accountability for what people say which yes there should be and we should listen to trans voices when discussing trans issues he never mentioned death or rape threats that was all made up by jk rowling

He did say her views were problematic in the interview in the Sunday Times I helpfully provided a share token for on the thread. He then, a month later, was asked if if he condemned the behaviour of people who made threats to Rowling and refused to answer the question.

Don't make stuff up. It makes you look a bit stupid and like you don't have a decent argument.

On the radio or voice I heard he never agreed with death threats etc I don’t believe the times sorry it’s way to biased against trans people

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2022 09:33

The mermaids fiasco that has had loads of hate full trolls piling on a charity so they can’t support kids that may have no whee to turn now you happy with thatb

Well maybe if they hadn't tried to revoke another charities status, they wouldn't have had to parade their shortcomings in court. They brought all this on themselves, that's the beauty of it.

And actually, yes, I'm glad that we're investigating a charity that kids turn to, despite said charity not understanding the basics of safeguarding. Aren't you? Or don't you believe gender conflicted children deserve proper safeguarding?

Freespirit42 · 18/10/2022 09:33

Anyway she’s picked on the wrong person here and I am very glad because now a lot of people will see she’s not this nice person that some seem to think

FirstandLastBorn · 18/10/2022 09:34

She doesn’t have to by the dog whistles she throws out her followers do that don’t they

Evidence needed.

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2022 09:34

No hypocrisy what’s wrong with listening to I dunno actual trans people or experts not the tweets of a woman obsessed and has no knowledge

She has knowledge of being a female domestic abuse survivor.

But you don't give a shit about them, now do you?

RealFeminist · 18/10/2022 09:34

QUITE RIGHT SHES NOT NICE AT ALL HORRIBLE WUMMIN

littlbrowndog · 18/10/2022 09:35

Gender conflicted children need safeguarding.

all children need safeguarding

charities working with children should know this