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Eddy Izzard uses ladies loo in Sheffield.

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 01/10/2022 11:25

Jean Hatchett article on Eddy Izzard attending a Labour Sheffield fundraiser, uses women's toilets, run up to his election as a candidate, uses women's toilets while there.

thecritic.co.uk/eddie-izzard-uses-the-ladies-loo-in-sheffield/

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ReneBumsWombats · 02/10/2022 22:47

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TalaTheStoryteller · 02/10/2022 22:52

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Blister · 02/10/2022 22:53

Possibly plotting more genital inspector roles for sports bodies instead of the panels of experts used to determine which are female...

At least sport would go back to being fair.

BloodAndFire · 02/10/2022 22:53

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I'm sorry it's hard for you to keep up. There are other places on the internet where you might feel more at home. 💋

TalaTheStoryteller · 02/10/2022 22:56

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TheClogLady · 02/10/2022 22:56

I can’t even begin to imagine what Tinder would look like in the New World…

‘Blue haired Ejaculator (22, Brighton) seeking non binary girl-moding Menstruator for homogenderal polycule (must like patchouli, pastel coloured flags and vegan cats)’

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ReneBumsWombats · 02/10/2022 22:56

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It's not hard for anyone who understands a) the ramifications of opening women's spaces up to men and b) the difference between a toilet cubicle and a public hall.

Since, by your own admission, this does not include you, it's perhaps better if you do go to bed as you claimed you were doing a few minutes ago.

ReneBumsWombats · 02/10/2022 22:57

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So responding to your posts on a public forum is harassment, but gaslighting women into accepting males in their spaces is fine and dandy....

BloodAndFire · 02/10/2022 22:59

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I don't think you understand the meaning of the word 'harassment' (leaving aside the spelling).

I've been raped, sexually assaulted and intimidated by males in supposedly female spaces. That is harassment. Someone suggesting that you find another forum on the internet, more in tune with your... particular view of the world, isn't harassment.

It must be nice to have lived such a safe life, free from genuine threats, assault, abuse and harassment, that you don't understand that.

Delilahonabike · 03/10/2022 00:04

Lovely to see how you are trying to harrass those who don't share your views about photographing people in lavatories out of this space.

No one took photos of anyone 'in lavatories' though did they? They took a photo of a man in a hall.

AutumnCrow · 03/10/2022 00:26

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When males breach social norms that have long been put in place to keep females safe, and that's OK with you, what actually is 'normal' any more?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/10/2022 00:30

What do you mean by "penispeople" I wonder?

There's a space, use it. Penis people are people too.

Moonatics · 03/10/2022 07:58

Trollcity · 01/10/2022 14:40

@Farmageddon

Read my post properly before you jump down my throat. I actually said, is that the solution, a third option? Why are you angry at me? Where was i suggesting that women had to compromise. Go on, copy and paste the part of my post where i said that.

I'm agreeing with everything everyone was saying. All I was saying is I'm reading a lot of anger or outrage on the subject but no-one suggesting what the solution might be so I suggested a possible solution. One you apparently agree with but you're so much up your own arse that you are obviously just angry at everyone! Wind your neck if you're not going to read and take into consideration other people's posts

Some of us have been at the coal face as it were for ooh about 16 years.
This makes some of us a little short when we have to yet again point out the most obvious flaws, find ways to make people really think about what they are saying (very often its, transwomen aren't the problem/what about third spaces) when they spout this stuff that means even they are putting men first and really women should be on our own team.
We also have been discussing this for all those years, we have found our answers (we know transwomen aren't the problem, but men are and who's to tell us which is tru trans and which is not?/third spaces have been touted by every woman who comes to this even me back then, but trans people dont want it and why is this womens issue to solve? )

There are other questions, if you read around the boards you will find questions and answers you hadnt even thought about, I did.

And mostly, in the end after reading all you can, you end up without meaning to as an expert and potentially called a T%#F. And then you try to tell people in real life with varying success and get a little frustrated that some women do not get it until one day they are forced into having a man in their space and then finally they might get it.
We are passionate about this, we care about women very much and we have seen the writing on the wall for over a decade. And we sometimes wonder how so many women cant put it together and that can come across in our posts. We are all very sorry but this really is bloody important, the most important fight for women and our rights when we believed we had got it all. Sadly that depends on men letting us have it.

Moonatics · 03/10/2022 08:58

LifeIsaRollerCoaster1 · 01/10/2022 15:10

Men might not want women in their spaces because of the potential for women to accuse them of allsorts. No one should have to be lumbered with the misfits in their space, make them a new area just for them!

Ah well if you carry this thought through to its inevitable end (I've posted similar elsewhere)
This space will in the beginning be as you say for misfits, trans people and the men and women who dont care.
Eventually the women will be assaulted/filmed/made very uncomfortable because literally anyone can go in and we cant identify the nice guys from the not nice guys. It'll be a free for all the perverts. Those who will film over/under the cubicle walls, those who will fit tiny cameras (Google for camera in screw, they are £20 or camera in lightbulb, similar cost) and then over the space of 2 or three months max it'll become a man only space.

Leaving men with two spaces to use, women with one that all along they have shared with trans women because trans people like this want validation and the only place they get that is by using women.

Live4weekend · 03/10/2022 09:18

Leaving men with two spaces to use, women with one that all along they have shared with trans women because trans people like this want validation and the only place they get that is by using women.

But we haven't really shared these spaces all along. OK some have in very very small numbers, mainlu men who tend to pass as woman. Many if us had probably never shared a space or realised we have because the numbers were so low.

It's not the case now. Eddie izzard is not one of these transsexuals. None if the new 'woman' with penises are.

Woman have an absolutely every right to be terrified at these men using our spaces for their own perversions.

Live4weekend · 03/10/2022 09:58

The law as it stands just now was introduced to make things easier for the very very small numbers of individuals who are truly gender dysphoric. It was to make their lives easier.

It was not introduced so that people like Eddie Izzard could use the ladies single sex spaces.

InsertPunHere · 03/10/2022 10:29

@babarandceleste , what you don’t seem to understand is that most of us don’t give a shiny shit about a man transitioning to a transwoman. Do it if they want, no skin off my nose.

What we object to is those transwomen then claiming access to our spaces, our sports, our changing rooms and refuges. They are not entitled, they are not welcome and they are exhibiting their socially conditioned privilege to think they can even ask.

There are no studies showing transwomen are any more at risk than other vulnerable males in male spaces. Women’s spaces aren’t a sanctuary for anyone at risk from male violence.

Enforcing our boundaries is not hate, it’s self-preservation.

Datun · 03/10/2022 10:45

Live4weekend · 03/10/2022 09:58

The law as it stands just now was introduced to make things easier for the very very small numbers of individuals who are truly gender dysphoric. It was to make their lives easier.

It was not introduced so that people like Eddie Izzard could use the ladies single sex spaces.

Yes. And I'm beginning to realise that it appears to have been managed by a bit of creative manipulation. The men (and women) who pushed for it knew exactly what they were doing.

It was the government who didn't.

ImherewithBoudica · 03/10/2022 10:49

Yes. I'm afraid we're all a lot sadder, wiser and more cynical about emotive, wide eyed 'this won't really affect anything' sharp marketing techniques.

As Blair found; you can only ever spend the 'take advantage of their good will and trust' card once. Once it's gone, it will never work again. Safeguarding works the same way. Loopholes, once found, are closed.

Moonatics · 03/10/2022 10:53

Live4weekend · 03/10/2022 09:18

Leaving men with two spaces to use, women with one that all along they have shared with trans women because trans people like this want validation and the only place they get that is by using women.

But we haven't really shared these spaces all along. OK some have in very very small numbers, mainlu men who tend to pass as woman. Many if us had probably never shared a space or realised we have because the numbers were so low.

It's not the case now. Eddie izzard is not one of these transsexuals. None if the new 'woman' with penises are.

Woman have an absolutely every right to be terrified at these men using our spaces for their own perversions.

By all along I meant the two or three months while the third space is colonised by men. As a third space is not validating enough. I do realise and it's been said enough by trans activists that we have been sharing only our toilets with transwomen for time. The tra say we never noticed, we say of course we noticed.
Bloody great hulking men tend to be noticeable anywhere but wearing a dress and heels and makeup means they really stand out. But as we were good compliant little women, we shoved down our immediate need to leave the space, we didn't want to get beaten up for saying anything. Plus there were so few and the actual chances of meeting one in a toilet was vanishingly rare.
Of course now every man only has to say the magic phrase and he too is a woman for all purposes. Including our sports, hospital wards etc, and there is no escape.

There is no longer any openly female only space.
It's all gone underground, so yet again we lose ourselves, we have to hide away, we cannot take part in life. It's all so fucking wrong.

ImherewithBoudica · 03/10/2022 10:58

Yes.

A compromise of a very few males with extreme need using female spaces was attempted - without consulting any females, obviously, cos it's not like they're actually human or anything - and male people promptly pushed it to the furthest possible extreme, smashed all good will and broke it. 'Tested to destruction' I think is the phrase.

So females now say no. Males are going to have to think of other solutions. And good luck to them.

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 11:03

For women (the old fashioned cunty kind) ‘freeze’ and ‘fawn’ are perhaps a lot more common than ‘flight’ and definitely a hell of a lot more common than ‘fight’.

Not reacting, or feigning friendliness as a self protective mechanism should not be mistaken for women not clocking the males who used our spaces, nor should it be mistaken for us being ok with it.

it’s not ok to colonise our spaces, our services and our descriptive words.
It’s never been ok.

and now we’re joining together and saying no, out loud and the only reason we didn’t say so before is because we needed the safety that comes with numbers.

Eddie can cock right off.

ReneBumsWombats · 03/10/2022 11:12

Tala wasn't a genuine poster? Shurely shome mishtake!

Problem is, so many people really are like that these days that the trolls can't actually parody them. Like the poster who had to be clear she was being sarcastic when she suggested doing away with child safeguards because we can't stop every single act of child abuse. Because so many people now say the same about women and they're deadly serious.

Delilahonabike · 03/10/2022 11:17

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 11:03

For women (the old fashioned cunty kind) ‘freeze’ and ‘fawn’ are perhaps a lot more common than ‘flight’ and definitely a hell of a lot more common than ‘fight’.

Not reacting, or feigning friendliness as a self protective mechanism should not be mistaken for women not clocking the males who used our spaces, nor should it be mistaken for us being ok with it.

it’s not ok to colonise our spaces, our services and our descriptive words.
It’s never been ok.

and now we’re joining together and saying no, out loud and the only reason we didn’t say so before is because we needed the safety that comes with numbers.

Eddie can cock right off.

This, in spades.

ReneBumsWombats · 03/10/2022 11:22

Does Eddie not feel a complete charlatan going into the ladies' as a laydee, and standing up to wee?