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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Maya on Radio 2 today

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JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 30/09/2022 11:33

Maya is being interviewed on the Jeremy Vine show today.

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picklemewalnuts · 30/09/2022 13:40

" be careful walking down the street you never know who you might meet who's in disguise!" Grin

Yogipineapple123 · 30/09/2022 13:40

I don’t think that angry GC caller has left a very good impression.

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2022 13:40

which absolutely kllls her, the fact she will never be able to give birht to a child'

Yes, I really feel for this woman's child. Who has quite possibly been rendered sterile. And will never be able to reach the promised impossible ideal of 'changing sex'.

picklemewalnuts · 30/09/2022 13:41

Who will never be able to have a child at all, now.

TheSonjaMorgan · 30/09/2022 13:41

This has been very interesting so far. What a shame for the parent of the trans child, she's bought completely into the delusion. There's no rowing back from here really, she has to completely go along with it. What a mess this terrible ideology is. Makes no sense, and messes up these poor children's lives.

nauticant · 30/09/2022 13:41

I agree Yogipineapple123. I was listening thinking "think about the audience and prioritise that over your righteousness".

inappropriateraspberry · 30/09/2022 13:42

What happened to tomboys and effeminate men? Why do all these trans people seem to stereotype themselves as girly 'women' in flowery dresses or 'men' with beards and muscles.

Toseland · 30/09/2022 13:42

Culture Club - It's a miracle - LOL

inappropriateraspberry · 30/09/2022 13:43

Always love the topical music choices in Jeremy Vine!

Rwealere · 30/09/2022 13:43

picklemewalnuts · 30/09/2022 13:40

" be careful walking down the street you never know who you might meet who's in disguise!" Grin

is JV going to say he does not select the song choice ?

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2022 13:44

The bold, bald truth is refreshing to hear, though.

I know it sounds nicer to say to the child 'you can become a woman', but it's not actually kind. Saying bluntly 'you can't change sex, you will always be male' is in the end the kind and brave thing to say.

Palmfrond · 30/09/2022 13:44

Yogipineapple123 · 30/09/2022 13:40

I don’t think that angry GC caller has left a very good impression.

Yeah Dawn was going in a bit hard, but if an own goal for GC. That said the trans “lesbian” wasn’t exactly doing much for his team either!

WinterTrees · 30/09/2022 13:44

Yogipineapple123 · 30/09/2022 13:40

I don’t think that angry GC caller has left a very good impression.

I think this is why Maya is so brilliant. She is tactful and respectful, which is so much more effective on media platforms than telling it like it is.

There's a time and a place for the unvarnished truth, but a lunchtime phone ins aren't necessarily it.

Yogipineapple123 · 30/09/2022 13:44

Some empathy for the child would have helped. Personally, I would have focused on the impact on other girls - I.e. absolutely, let your trans daughter dress and socialise how they like - but it’s not fair on the other girls for them to be on the girls sport team.

However, I understand how emotions take over and how hard it is on the spot! I don’t trust myself to talk to friends let alone the radio.

Treaclemine · 30/09/2022 13:45

If transwomen were attacked with the same numbers as the rest of us, let alone more, there would not be many left.

Palmfrond · 30/09/2022 13:45

Rwealere · 30/09/2022 13:43

is JV going to say he does not select the song choice ?

Ha ha, they do quite often play low key piss taking songs after interviews on R2

xalo · 30/09/2022 13:45

@ArabellaScott
Agreed!

nauticant · 30/09/2022 13:47

I think this is why Maya is so brilliant. She is tactful and respectful, which is so much more effective on media platforms than telling it like it is.

Exactly. When the storm around Kathleen Stock was at its height the trans activists were hunting high and low for any dirt and their failure to find any really helped in getting Stock's story picked up all across the media.

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2022 13:48

Yogipineapple123 · 30/09/2022 13:44

Some empathy for the child would have helped. Personally, I would have focused on the impact on other girls - I.e. absolutely, let your trans daughter dress and socialise how they like - but it’s not fair on the other girls for them to be on the girls sport team.

However, I understand how emotions take over and how hard it is on the spot! I don’t trust myself to talk to friends let alone the radio.

Yes, agree. But that was a very very short spot of time. I'd have liked to have heard lots more from ALL of the callers.

picklemewalnuts · 30/09/2022 13:48

I mean,
Boy George
Effeminately dressed
It's a miracle

And that first line.

LovinglifeAF · 30/09/2022 13:49

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2022 13:36

'it's abuse of children'
'it's not my decision, it's completely her decision'

I just heard that ffs step up and fucking parent your child

maltravers · 30/09/2022 13:51

Yogipineapple123 · 30/09/2022 13:40

I don’t think that angry GC caller has left a very good impression.

I agree Yogi, it makes it look like there’s a hidden agenda of dislike. Let people live their lives as they like, including trans people, but there should be balance - no access by TW to single sex spaces there to protect women and girls and the ability of WAG fully to participate. No bullying of gay people to accept the opposite sex. And no requirement to readjust the world’s language and refer to us as bleeders, vagina havers etc to “be kind”. Surely it should be enough?

BunnyBerries · 30/09/2022 13:55

Well done Maya

"We have to be able to speak clearly."

This. It matters.

VestofAbsurdity · 30/09/2022 14:02

Let's all hope that that mother's child never has a heart attack or needs a blood transfusion bearing in mind that their NHS records have been changed to be of the female sex.

As for the gender is not sex but my child is female - words fail me, the lies swallowed and told are never ending and the only person to whom this is detrimental is the child in question.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 30/09/2022 14:02

She was great wasn't she!

Anna the transwoman did a great job for the GC cause too.

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