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Mermaids being investigated by the charity commission

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MajorieEks · 29/09/2022 16:22

“hoisted by their own petard” never seemed more apt, if true

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TheBiologyStupid · 29/09/2022 23:41

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 29/09/2022 22:04

This one www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6577301/Drag-queens-pose-glamorous-calendar.html

Sorry for the Fail link,only one I could find

Bloody hell - the Mail has certainly changed its tune on the issue since publishing that article!

WandaWomblesaurus · 29/09/2022 23:45

Have you SEEN the pictures though? I think they know exactly what they are doing. One of them has their arse cheeks out and the breasts on others are wholly inappropriate.
To support a CHILDREN'S charity - in plain sight!

chakacant · 30/09/2022 00:06

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Datun · 30/09/2022 00:16

WandaWomblesaurus · 29/09/2022 23:45

Have you SEEN the pictures though? I think they know exactly what they are doing. One of them has their arse cheeks out and the breasts on others are wholly inappropriate.
To support a CHILDREN'S charity - in plain sight!

That's the one. Whips, crucifixes, BDSM, and looking at a porn mag.

Proceeds going to a children's charity who want to 'reach out to vulnerable teens with no parental support'.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/09/2022 00:25

Who remembers that time The Telegraph published that Allison Bailey beat Stonewall?

Yes, they should have written Garden Court Chambers. Better luck next time.

yourhairiswinterfire · 30/09/2022 00:26

insisting that breast binders are "just underwear".

"Just underwear", TRAs say, as if that makes it sound fucking better!

If it was anyone else speaking to 13 year old girls online and sending them underwear in secret, the police would be called...

BitossiBlues · 30/09/2022 00:27

Philomena Cunk has a new documentary coming up.

@RedToothBrush I reckon Philomena would have an hilarious take on Mermaids' little spat with Grammarly, over Mermaids falling foul of their own pronoun rules.

Datun · 30/09/2022 00:31

yourhairiswinterfire · 30/09/2022 00:26

insisting that breast binders are "just underwear".

"Just underwear", TRAs say, as if that makes it sound fucking better!

If it was anyone else speaking to 13 year old girls online and sending them underwear in secret, the police would be called...

Quite.

WandaWomblesaurus · 30/09/2022 01:18

Trans youth group faces scrutiny by charity watchdog - Times now.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c3401f72-4027-11ed-b24d-96120f17513d?shareToken=78ba51b5ee07a3db3a5f1e075402af6d

TheClogLady · 30/09/2022 02:09

I’m not suggesting that this is a credible publication but it is interesting as a ‘cross over episode’:

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TheClogLady · 30/09/2022 02:19

Weirdly, it’s mostly a sports site, based in Spain:

www.marca.com/en/

here’s an archive for the their Harry, Megan & Mermaids story, title:

Meghan and Harry's latest controversy: Supporting charity accused of child abuse
Duke and Duchess of Sussex provided help to 'Mermaids'

archive.ph/7sVIB

Binglebong · 30/09/2022 08:28

Does anyone have time to complain about the BBC article? Have to get to work. According to them there is little evidence binders cause harm, and that's before you get to the whole undermining parents and homophobia reports.

AliceS1994 · 30/09/2022 09:08

I might be being tick bit what's the harm in sending breast binders to young people who have sought them out?

KittenKong · 30/09/2022 09:10

Oh so if I just fancy, hmmmm making nuclear weapons in my kitchen - I need some plutonium then? Can someone send me some please?

midgetastic · 30/09/2022 09:12

AliceS1994 · 30/09/2022 09:08

I might be being tick bit what's the harm in sending breast binders to young people who have sought them out?

Would you send free cigarettes to children who sought them out ?

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2022 09:13

What's the harm in sending corsets to children who ask for them?

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2022 09:16

How would you feel about someone sending anorexic girls with body dysphoria a 'waist training' corset, Alice?

www.truecorset.co.uk/waist-trainers

'These have been worn with great success by various celebrities to reshape their waistline and aid weight loss'

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rabbitwoman · 30/09/2022 09:19

AliceS1994 · 30/09/2022 09:08

I might be being tick bit what's the harm in sending breast binders to young people who have sought them out?

I will trust you are asking in good faith as others have so I will reply.

Firstly, if a child wants to use a binder it could well be a safeguarding issue. It could signal a range of issues from abuse to self harm. It should be raised with the school or appropriate authorities in case.

Secondly, it is the first step on an affirmation pathway that may well e d in surgeries and drugs. That may not be suitable for that child. Psychological evaluation should be the first step, not social transition.

Additionally to the second point, the Cass review states that socially transitioning a child should not be seen as a benign intervention, as we have no idea what the physiological effects might be.

Thirdly, binders can cause breathing difficulties, breast tissue malformation, sores and skin infections, broken ribs..... All very well fir mermaids to say they are giving advice on how to use them safely, but are they there when the child tries them on for the first time?

Thirdly, the main concern is that this is being done without parental consent, or knowledge. Many parents are very aware of the dangers of this ideology and would chose not to allow their children to go down this route. I think that should be their statutory right. Any adult complicit in going against parents wishes in this is encouraging children to trust strangers on the Internet over their own parents. Where could this lead?

I hope this explains it. What do you think?

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2022 09:21

(Just to add: Waist trainers are also associated with various health issues, including reduced lung capacity, internal organ damage, skin issues, digestive issues.)

TheClogLady · 30/09/2022 09:21

AliceS1994 · 30/09/2022 09:08

I might be being tick bit what's the harm in sending breast binders to young people who have sought them out?

Extracts from here: helloclue.com/articles/cycle-a-z/chest-binding-tips-and-tricks-for-trans-men-nonbinary-and-genderfluid

Risks and side effects of binding

Binding can affect skin, muscles, and movement, particularly over long periods of time. Tightly covering the skin and chest with materials that don’t allow free-flowing air can create warm, moist environments for bacterial and fungal infections to develop. Wearing binders that are too tight can cause underlying tissue and muscle damage, prevent free movement, and even restrict a person’s ability to breathe.

Two studies have been completed that focus specifically on people who bind. They were cross-sectional studies, observing a specific population (people who chest bind) at a specific point in time, and were published in 2017 and 2018. Both of these studies are based on data from 1,800 responders to an online survey.

Across both studies, the majority of people (89-97%) reported experiencing at least one negative symptom from chest binding (2,3).

Common side effects of chest binding

76-78% of people in studies reported skin/tissue problems, like tenderness, scarring, swelling, itching, infections
74-75% of people reported pain in chest, shoulders, back or abdomen
51-52% of people reported respiratory problems (like shortness of breath)
47-49% of people reported musculoskeletal symptoms, like postural changes, muscle wasting, or rib fractures (2,3)

(emphasis mine)
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call me old fashioned but I don’t think it’s good to give minors devices that cause the above behind their parents backs

i wouldn’t even give someone else’s teen a pair of heels! Growing bodies need extra care.

Plus, if a girl is feeling crap about her developing breasts (and crikey knows they grow in all sorts of uneven ways) she will feel a lot worse about them when they are permanently tissue damaged (look up surgical results for before and after cosmetic mastectomy - the before photos are what binding does to previously healthy tissue).

Whatwouldscullydo · 30/09/2022 09:25

AliceS1994 · 30/09/2022 09:08

I might be being tick bit what's the harm in sending breast binders to young people who have sought them out?

Well for starters no child and thats what you are up until you hit 18, a child, should be talking to strangers online about their breasts.

That information is limited to bra fitters and drs/nurses usually with a parent or guardian in the vicinity.

If anyone else did that wed be getting a visit from the police.

No ones should also be affirming that a childs' perfectly healthy developing normally body is wrong in any way.

Handsoffmyrights · 30/09/2022 09:31

Harry was also among this welcoming reception in 2017:

Mermaids being investigated by the charity commission
TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2022 09:32

As were Wills and Kate by the looks of things

OldCrone · 30/09/2022 09:34

Binglebong · 30/09/2022 08:28

Does anyone have time to complain about the BBC article? Have to get to work. According to them there is little evidence binders cause harm, and that's before you get to the whole undermining parents and homophobia reports.

In this study of 1800 adults, 97% had at least one negative effect from binding.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27300085/

Handsoffmyrights · 30/09/2022 09:39

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2022 09:32

As were Wills and Kate by the looks of things

Yes, i only mentioned Harry as there was a link upthread specifically about him.

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