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Mermaids being investigated by the charity commission

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MajorieEks · 29/09/2022 16:22

“hoisted by their own petard” never seemed more apt, if true

Mermaids being investigated by the charity commission
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ArabellaScott · 05/10/2022 21:27

Ach, apologies, I shall sit on my hands until I finish reading the thread!

ControversialOpening · 05/10/2022 21:31

Don’t expect me to be silent

We don’t, we don’t.

Its almost admirable. It’s not often that a woman would butt into a discussion and make it all about themself.

OldCrone · 05/10/2022 21:32

RobinMoiraWhite · 05/10/2022 21:07

Given that simple factual matters are exaggerated or misrepresented with the intention or effect of distorting any action, you are very optimistic to think I would comment in such a medium on something really contentious.

But you already commented on twitter. You said yourself that you were 'confused' as to why people thought it was inappropriate for Mermaids to encourage children to keep secrets from their parents about things like legally changing their names or being sent harmful devices through the post.

You said 'Really confused by this one. If the name changes are 'in secret' who does it affect?'

Why are you confused? Do you think encouraging children to keep secrets like this from their parents is an appropriate way for a charity to behave?

Knittingmonster · 05/10/2022 21:33

ControversialOpening · 05/10/2022 21:31

Don’t expect me to be silent

We don’t, we don’t.

Its almost admirable. It’s not often that a woman would butt into a discussion and make it all about themself.

Has that happened in this thread? Did I miss it?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/10/2022 21:35

Thanks TheClogLady. That's such a powerful article:

I think of it as terrorising vulnerable children for political gain.
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Anotherusernom · 05/10/2022 21:48

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ImherewithBoudica · 05/10/2022 21:52

That is a bloody scary article in how it lays it all out there.

Already the minimising is starting, that this individual just has 'sympathies' - no, the work is to actively enable. To facilitate, to remove boundaries, to reframe in a way that advantages adults who are interested in themselves and not in the best interests of a child. It is pernicious and the evidence was easily found. This cannot be brushed away. It is not a bug of the programme. This is what 'queering childhood' means.

Knittingmonster · 05/10/2022 21:53

Didn’t Peter Tatchell defend Mermaids at one point?

RichardBarrister · 05/10/2022 21:54

“You said 'Really confused by this one. If the name changes are 'in secret' who does it affect?'”

“Why are you confused? Do you think encouraging children to keep secrets like this from their parents is an appropriate way for a charity to behave?

yes @OldCrone - I think most parents would be a little perturbed to say the least to find out that their 16 year old child had changed their name on official documentation, potentially including their passport without their knowledge.

An unbelievably irresponsible thing for a charity to offer as a ‘service’ for children and a deliberate attempt to undermine parental responsibility and the family bonds.

I assume anyone who is ‘confused’ about the issues around this has not children and no empathy.

Anotherusernom · 05/10/2022 21:58

Peter Tatchell was involved in campaigning for understanding 'MAP'. I believe there was a declaration/charter. As per my OP this was a thing around mid-2000s. A move to bring under the LGBT banner. At the time LGBT people were horrified.
It's almost as if his has used/created Trans children as a Trojan horse. Surely not?

Anotherusernom · 05/10/2022 21:59

Sorry #this not his. I'm not suggesting Peter Tatchell has orchestrated it!

WarriorN · 05/10/2022 22:00

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It's an age old tactic.

Smilelesstalkmore · 05/10/2022 22:01

Peter Tatchell wrote a letter to the Guardian years ago saying that sex with kids is OK as long as the child is OK with it as an adult. He doubled down quite recently.

So what you have to do it get it your paedo time machine and make sure that the 9 year old you are going to rape will be OK with it in 30 years time.....Hmm

Tatchell is also very invested in teenagers having sex and thinks that teens need to be 'taught' how to masturbate.

Anotherusernom · 05/10/2022 22:02

I've been busy raising children since then but I'm shocked how far progressed it's become. I'm now here to protect my teens and their friends!

noraclavicle · 05/10/2022 22:06

Knittingmonster · 05/10/2022 20:38

I wonder who the safeguarding lead was at mermaids. I’m saying was because after this spectacular cock up there’s no way they could still have a job.

Interestingly, if you Google "mermaids safeguarding lead" you get no results. Zip, zero, nada. Their ‘Staff and Trustees” page also reveals nothing. Likewise LinkedIn.

They have a Safeguarding Policy which states at 4.3:

”It is the overall responsibility of the CEO, Susie Green, on behalf of the Safeguarding Lead to ensure that all necessary measures are in place to safeguard children.”

…and it provides a phone number for the Lead, but who this Lead is, is currently a mystery.

ArabellaScott · 05/10/2022 22:07

That is odd. At least, seems odd to me.

noraclavicle · 05/10/2022 22:08

My bad, the phone number cited in the policy as being the one on which this mysterious Safeguarding Lead can be contacted is just their main phone number.

KatMcBundleFace · 05/10/2022 22:09

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/10/2022 21:16

I'm thinking was Jane Fae the one who complained about not being to access unsuitable sites on their phone on public transport???

I think that was another MTF trans person, on their way to give evidence about not respecting single sex facilities for vulnerable women in refuges to the Women and Equalities Select Committee.

Yup, the article forgets to mention it was a TW too

www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/passenger-complained-great-western-railway-16330620

Volunteered at a women's refuge.

Every single time these things blow up I think SURELY THE PENNY HAS DROPPED NOW..... but here we all still are.

ArabellaScott · 05/10/2022 22:09

So ... do they have a Safeguarding Lead, then?

Knittingmonster · 05/10/2022 22:11

That’s very odd, I thought every organisation that worked with vulnerable people had to have by law a safeguarding lead/coordinator. If SG is doing it on behalf the lead, she cannot be the lead. Unless she just identifies as the lead on Tuesdays or something

ArabellaScott · 05/10/2022 22:11

Oh, it says 'Mermaids has a Nominated Safeguarding Lead (SL)' - but then it all goes a bit mysterious. the number for the SL and the deputy SL are both the main switchboard number.

Have they just not bothered putting someone in place?

Dreikanter · 05/10/2022 22:12

I looked on the Charity Commission (CC) website yesterday and Breslow was not listed as a Trustee.

If Breslow only quit on Monday evening as a Trustee, then for his name to be not listed on the CC yesterday suggests that (a) the CC removed it very quickly or (b) it wasn’t previously listed.

And if it’s (b), who else could be missing?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/10/2022 22:12

We know that predators seek out vulnerabilities. In my depressing experience of having worked with a paedophile, he was a popular member of staff, he charmed children and staff and he exploited every single weakness in the school in order to target a specific child.
That's why safeguarding has to be strong and resilient. That's why adults have to be at times sceptical and suspicious & institutions have to have practices that are defensive and focus on the child's needs - not the adult expectations.
It's why Mermaids (and other groups) have been catastrophic for child safety as they seek to isolate a vulnerable child from the family by cynically exploiting their teenage angst as they make the journey from childhood to adulthood. They even boast about it.

This organisation needs to be thoroughly investigated given everything that has been disclosed.

YouSirNeighMmmm · 05/10/2022 22:13

ArabellaScott · 05/10/2022 22:09

So ... do they have a Safeguarding Lead, then?

Imagine having that on your CV!

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