Lisa Nandy says TWAW and belong in women's prisons

[pattihews]

And she totally supports self-ID. This is why if a general election was called tomorrow, I'd either not vote or I might even vote Conservative, though that would be painful for me.

Labour are still totally captured. I know there are good people within Labour fighting from within, but a Labour cabinet would include people like Nandy and Starmer who are staying true to Stonewall. They can't be trusted with women's rights.

I stole this from another thread: thought it deserved one of its own. Hope that's okay.

Self-sabotage.

I’ve literally just written elsewhere that I cannot vote Labour. Honestly I can’t take them seriously. Every day is the Emperor’s New Clothes and I’m just too old to be gaslit.

Yep- Lisa Nandy doing a great job repelling floating voters..

I've just listened to Keir Starmer on the radio, talking about how Labour have spent the last few years regathering and preparing, ready to win an election.

As a former LP member who has both left and written and spoken to Labour about my frustrations as a woman and mother at being left politically homeless by a party I always supported, because they cannot understand why this matters, it is just utterly offensive to be so ignored.

Labour are dangerous. Seriously dangerous for women and girls, for safeguarding and for opportunities. Ay party that has a male as a women's leader or representative is offensive. Any party that believes males in prison with vulnerable females is ok or desirable even is dangerous.

Is that a new video since yesterday? I would like to see her interviewed on the very specific details of the Sussex pedophile case.

God she's a drip.

Who's the woman asking the questions?

Was it mainly men or women applauding her TWAW comment?

Unbelievable.
Especially in the face of real cases such as the one involving tweets from the Sussex police on another thread, about the convicted paedophile who is a male human being - whatever his self-ID is - being housed in a prison for women, including women with toddlers.

That's from early 2020, during the Labour leadership campaign. Julia Long was asking the questions.

I've not seen anything to suggest Nandy has changed her position though.

It's crazy how Labour are throwing their massive advantage away over this. Insane. I won't be voting for them, despite being a natural Labour voter. I think I'll prob vote Green though I know they have issues too.

I thought it was.

I doubt she has changed her opinion.

I would still like to see her answer some very specific questions on the Sussex Pedophile being housed in a woman's prisons.

For as long as so many Labour MPs continue to live in the North London dinner party circuit echo chamber, the Tories will rise to the top. At least Suella Braverman has got the balls (no pun intended) to take Sussex police for the crap that was spouted on twitter.

It's so depressing.

Any political party so detached from reality that they believe TWAW are incapable of supporting the country as a (much needed) competent 'Opposition' let alone be trusted to Govern.

So depressing

It won’t lose them many votes unless things change drastically with other stuff

Even the Geneva Convention makes it clear that female prisoners must be accommodated separately from males.

Removing women's hard-won sex-based rights and protections is madness. (And illegal.)

Stay strong sisters (and any men out there in our corner). I have real and truth faith that this rubbish will be a blip in the passage of time, and that we will look back on this nonsense aghast at what a bizarre notion it all was. Have a look at previous ‘emperors new clothes incidents’ (late 70s and early 80s) involving Labour (I’m not allowed to mention them on here, I get told off if I bring them up in the same breath as TWAW wokery). People woke up to the real truth that time, not the nonsense, and they will do again. Be sure of it.

yes, nothing has changed in the Labour Party since this video. It's just that the attention of the media has moved on. Back in 2020 almost every Labour politician was asked what they thought a woman is, and made idiots of themselves in the process. This time around, the media aren't following that angle.
Labour policy on this hasn't changed, but, unfortunately, they are not being exposed.

Why on earth would you vote Conservative, though?

Who is in power?
Who has been in power since 2010?
Under whose government has a paedophile, who does not have a GRC (one of the controls put in under the GRA), just been sentenced as a woman and put in a woman’s prison?

If you want to make this the defining issue on which to cast your vote, you should look at the SDP, the Communist party or UKiP.

And apologies if I offend anyone with my ‘stay strong sisters’! I’m feeling the rallying cry to battle today! (Non violently of course 😬).

Oh dear!

My apologies for getting this wrong. I'd thought from the context in which it was posted it was this year's conference. I'll ask that this thread be removed.

tanith All really good points and I have a feeling there may be some back-pedalling about that person going to a Women’s prison (Karen White anyone)?

I think this thread has value and should stay OP!

I agree pomegranate

I've asked for it to be removed, I'm afraid. Rather embarrassed to have got it so wrong. But let's let MN decide.

I'm guessing because in relation to this specific issue the Conservatives appear to be slowly applying the brakes whereas Labour have promised to go full steam ahead.