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Solidarity with the brave women of Iran

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Signalbox · 24/09/2022 21:23

Just reading/watching about the tragic death of Mahsa Amini following her arrest for incorrectly wearing the hijab. These women are so incredibly brave.

"Anti-government protests are taking place across Iran following the death of 22-year-old Mahsa Amini on 16 September. Amini was detained in Tehran by a paramilitary unit that enforces Islamic dress codes after she reportedly didn’t wear the hijab correctly. She fell into a coma under unknown circumstances while in custody and later died, prompting outrage at religious police and security forces. However, despite its scale, analysts and diplomats are doubtful that the protests will lead to any significant change."

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Signalbox · 05/10/2022 19:47

picklemewalnuts · 05/10/2022 19:09

Oh wait! There's recipes! I know we need to talk about recipes quite often.

We ovary-havers do love our recipes :)

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Signalbox · 05/10/2022 20:01

@ KianSharifi Senior Journalist @ bbcmonitoring

tweeted...

"A girls' school in Iran brought a member of the IRGC-run Basij paramilitary to speak to students. The girls welcomed the speaker by taking off their headscarves & chanting "get lost, Basiji"."

"Teenage girls have been at the forefront of protests for days."

twitter.com/KianSharifi/status/1577543177925435395

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picklemewalnuts · 05/10/2022 20:23

Oh wow! Brave young women!

I wonder where their teachers stand?

PeekAtYou · 05/10/2022 20:31

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I don't know if this is the same school but wow 🤩

TheBiologyStupid · 05/10/2022 22:35

PeekAtYou · 05/10/2022 20:31

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I don't know if this is the same school but wow 🤩

Kudos to those brave girls!
The BBC Radio 4 "The World Tonight" news programme just covered this.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/10/2022 00:50

In order to pretend this isn't the backwater.
To pretend that there is a feminism which is apart from sex and gender.

Obviously there isn't. There's nothing to discuss in feminism which doesn't hinge on the sex of the feminists.

This.

StillWeRise · 06/10/2022 19:07

does anyone know f any solidarity actions or other ways we can help?

yorkshireteaparty · 06/10/2022 20:12

The women and young people of Iran are brave and it's important we keep their fight at the forefront

Signalbox · 06/10/2022 20:25

God that's awful 😢

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MrsTerryPratchett · 06/10/2022 20:34

Signalbox · 05/10/2022 20:01

@ KianSharifi Senior Journalist @ bbcmonitoring

tweeted...

"A girls' school in Iran brought a member of the IRGC-run Basij paramilitary to speak to students. The girls welcomed the speaker by taking off their headscarves & chanting "get lost, Basiji"."

"Teenage girls have been at the forefront of protests for days."

twitter.com/KianSharifi/status/1577543177925435395

I must show DD. Those wonderful girls. The bravery and solidarity is something to behold.

TheBiologyStupid · 06/10/2022 20:59

Just been discussed on BBC Radio 4's The Briefing Room. A little mixed as to what the final outcome will be: www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001cpxy

Runningintolife · 06/10/2022 21:13

Women and Girls a force to be reckoned with.

Lougle · 06/10/2022 21:26

I was listening to the Jeremy Vine show today and a woman was talking about this (didn't catch her name when I turned it on). She was saying that many of the arrests of women are nothing to do with what they're wearing, but more that they aren't wearing it correctly. Imagine being arrested because your scarf has slipped and revealed your hair. It's just dreadful.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/10/2022 12:28

Well yes, I imagine men will use anything slightly out of place as an excuse to terrorise women.

Signalbox · 07/10/2022 17:41

Interesting discussion on the Spiked podcast...

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ArabellaScott · 07/10/2022 21:41

StillWeRise · 06/10/2022 19:07

does anyone know f any solidarity actions or other ways we can help?

Find and follow 'My stealthy freedom' on social media. The woman who runs it said this was a good way to help - keep sharing the stories of the women and girls fighting this.

You could write to the Iranian embassy, perhaps, too.

TheBiologyStupid · 07/10/2022 22:43

ArabellaScott · 07/10/2022 21:41

Find and follow 'My stealthy freedom' on social media. The woman who runs it said this was a good way to help - keep sharing the stories of the women and girls fighting this.

You could write to the Iranian embassy, perhaps, too.

And some women have been posting their cut off hair to the embassies in their countries in solidarity.

donquixotedelamancha · 08/10/2022 10:59

@KimMumsnet please could you explain why you've moved this thread to the low-traffic board?

Clearly women in Iran are subjugated because of their sex which is why OP code that board in the first place.

These boards attract different groups so it would be nice to be able to carry the discussion on in the place it started.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/10/2022 11:30

I think it's back on the S&G board

FemaleAndLearning · 10/10/2022 09:45

I wonder where this thread had gone. What a strange idea to move it to chat. This is clearly about sex and gender. Glad it's back where it belongs.
These women and girls are incredible. I think I'm brave going to Let Women Speak events these women and girls are beyond brave.

TheBiologyStupid · 10/10/2022 10:17

Glad to see this thread is back - it's not been opening for the last few days.

Amazing that the main Iranian evening TV news broadcast got hacked the other day. And brave women chanting at the president, too! www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-63188795

Signalbox · 10/10/2022 10:17

Andrew Doyle, on Free Speech Nation, interviewing 2 Iranian women's rights activists taking about the situation in Iran for women living under the Islamic Republic. They also mention that LGBTQ and Feminists groups in the west are largely silent on their struggle.

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RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 10/10/2022 10:25

It's just such an awful situation. Those women and girls are incredibly brave

Signalbox · 10/10/2022 10:25

Heartbreaking footage of #SarinaEsmailzadeh from twitter...

twitter.com/Aghdas_K/status/1578129935293714432

@ Aghdas_K
Aghdas Khanoom

"Look at this beautiful teenage girl, full of life, singing with @ Hozier's "Take Me to Church". The Islamic Republic killed her in the protests following #MahsaAmini's murder. She only wanted to live a free life as a young woman. Say her name: #SarinaEsmailzadeh"

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