Mermaids vs LGB Alliance and Charity Commissioner - First-tier Tribunal (General Regulatory Chameber) Thread 2

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The Tribunal started on 9 September, witness testimony started on 12 September.

There is also live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets.

To obtain access to view the proceedings, send a request email to [email protected] about case CA/2021/0013 - Mermaids vs Charity Commissioner and LGB Alliance and ask for permission to join. You then have to provide certain information and agree to a judge's direction in order to be able to join.

Abbreviations:

J or judge: Presiding Judge, Judge Lynn Griffin
AJ or Judge: Assisted by Judge Joe Neville
MG: Mermaids counsel is Michael Gibbon KC
KM: LGB Alliance counsel is Karon Monaghan KC
AR: Karon is assisted by Akua Reindorf
IS: Charity Commission counsel is Iain Steele

Thread 1: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4629679-mermaids-versus-lgb-alliance-in-court-today
Thread 2: ongoing

Witnesses for the applicant (Mermaids):

Paul Roberts - CEO of LGBT Consortium (12 September)
John Nicolson MP - Deputy Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Global LGBT+ Rights (13 September)
Dr Belinda Bell - Chair of trustees of Mermaids (?? September)

Witnesses for the respondent (LGB Alliance):

Beverley Jackson - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Kate Harris - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Eileen Gallagher OBE - Chair of trustees of LGB Alliance (?? September)

Witness Statements:

Paul Roberts: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Paul-Roberts-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
John Nicolson MP - Not yet available
Dr Belinda Bell: Not yet available
Beverley Jackson: Not yet available
Kate Harris: Not yet available
Eileen Gallagher: Not yet available

Submissions:

lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Volume-4-Submissions-CA.2021.0013.pdf

(Header format follows the gold standard established by @ickky)

'Not appropriate unless you're medical people'

Hasn't she said several times, that Mermaids aren't medical people??

‘STATEMENT’

i’m taking that as a DRINK

BB getting a little pissy now

Anyone else channeling their inner Alan Partridge? 'They're medical people Lynn'!

OMG I'm in!

Aaarghh! Is it too late for them to include it? (So untechy_ don't know how it works) Or guess we will just have to wait for the transcript....

i’m taking that as a DRINK

BB getting a little pissy now

As opposed to our BB getting a little pissed

Yes, her speech pattern is begnning to annoy me.

Lynne: No thank you, i don't want to be part of your medical festival.

She knows she's talking bollocks, dworky.

BB: Well the language seems weighted 'unscientific' etc and talking about it leading to medical procedures is postulated...

Only just! You must be very a very patient person.

She does doesn't she? She is trying so hard though

Again section 28 is doing some heavy lifting

Interesting how BB cast doubt on the Cass report mentioning the word "ideological" when it does:

^Aspects of the literature are open to interpretation in multiple ways, and there
is a risk that some authors interpret their data from a particular ideological and/or theoretical standpoint.^

The Mermaids witnesses have been doing this continually, denying things that are actually true in the hope of getting away with it. They prioritise ideological purity over facts and truth.

BB denying that trans/ gender ideology is a social contagion — despite all the evidence to the contrary. Some schools trans-free, other schools where a couple transition or declare themselves NB and 30, 40, 50% follow.

Reminds me of the church only having bibles in Latin so they could keep knowledge to themselves. On of the big reforms of the church was when it was translated so others could read it (presumably still only a relative few were literate though).

HatyKaty on Twitter :

"Yeah. The cause is just and the facts are on their side, but I have no faith in courts or lawyers or judges at all. After watching the absolute joke original Bell decision. The process is garbage, women and LGBT people lose out"

ie - I can see from the state of the opening witnesses on our side that we don't have a cat in hell's chance, so I'm getting in first . . .

She sounds a bit stressed

BB claiming that no one has been taught they've been born in the wrong body.

Witness cannot imagine that people are being taught that it's possible to be born in the "wrong body".

They're going to need a bigger memory hole Signalbox.

Some people are born with a gender identity that does not match their body and the gender role society has assigned to them.

from here

www.barnsley.gov.uk/media/15892/barnsley-transgender-guidance.pdf and a 2 second google

But isn't this exactly what Mermaids said until they reverse ferreted?

memory hole

😂

These people are unbelievably arrogant and disingenuous.