Mermaids vs LGB Alliance and Charity Commissioner - First-tier Tribunal (General Regulatory Chameber) Thread 2

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The Tribunal started on 9 September, witness testimony started on 12 September.

There is also live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets.

To obtain access to view the proceedings, send a request email to [email protected] about case CA/2021/0013 - Mermaids vs Charity Commissioner and LGB Alliance and ask for permission to join. You then have to provide certain information and agree to a judge's direction in order to be able to join.

Abbreviations:

J or judge: Presiding Judge, Judge Lynn Griffin
AJ or Judge: Assisted by Judge Joe Neville
MG: Mermaids counsel is Michael Gibbon KC
KM: LGB Alliance counsel is Karon Monaghan KC
AR: Karon is assisted by Akua Reindorf
IS: Charity Commission counsel is Iain Steele

Thread 1: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4629679-mermaids-versus-lgb-alliance-in-court-today
Thread 2: ongoing

Witnesses for the applicant (Mermaids):

Paul Roberts - CEO of LGBT Consortium (12 September)
John Nicolson MP - Deputy Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Global LGBT+ Rights (13 September)
Dr Belinda Bell - Chair of trustees of Mermaids (?? September)

Witnesses for the respondent (LGB Alliance):

Beverley Jackson - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Kate Harris - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Eileen Gallagher OBE - Chair of trustees of LGB Alliance (?? September)

Witness Statements:

Paul Roberts: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Paul-Roberts-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
John Nicolson MP - Not yet available
Dr Belinda Bell: Not yet available
Beverley Jackson: Not yet available
Kate Harris: Not yet available
Eileen Gallagher: Not yet available

Submissions:

lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Volume-4-Submissions-CA.2021.0013.pdf

(Header format follows the gold standard established by @ickky)

@LolaDrek Mermaids has provided a summary of day 2:

Today was the second day of the hearing of Mermaids versus the Charity Commission regarding the status of the LGB Alliance.
Paul Roberts, CEO of LGBT+ Consortium, gave evidence in support of Mermaids.
LGB Alliance’s legal team cross-examined Mr Roberts on his Witness Statement for several hours, and under intense questioning, he was clear that Consortium’s view is that trans women are women, trans men are men, and trans people belong in the LGBT community.
That's it.

Sorry to interrupt - is there a live feed we can watch or listen to?

See the OP for details on how to watch.

Yes, it’s very clear that his transactivism is rooted in misogyny

having to do this in the real world outside his echo chamber is probably a shock

Oh yes. he appears to genuinely believe that he's calling all the shots.

Hi @Aubriella you email [email protected]

And ask for access to this case:

case CA/2021/0013 - Mermaids vs Charity Commissioner and LGB Alliance

They will email back and ask for full name address and email

Thank you!

JN: EHRC - are controversial

= Yes they are homophobic/transphobic

Placemarking

Checking in. Thanks to everyone who is watching and providing commentary!

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Ah, remember the good old days when the EHRC were completely stonewalled and spewed the insanity? Good tines hey John

Unbelievable!

He wishes LGBA wouldn't lobby orgs, and just undertake charitable works.

KM - Charities lobbying for legal form are quite common.

JN: Keri not an appropriate person to be Women for Equalities 😳

JN: Kemi Badenoch was not an appropriate person to be an equalities minister given her voting record.

Unsurprising comment.

JN desperate to talk about what LGBA actually do
KM: we'll get to that when they give their evidence. No need to trouble yourself about it [dear]

On to the tweets. JN willing be puffing himself up for this.

😂

KM: we'll get to that when they give their evidence. No need to trouble yourself about it [dear]

Ooh, onto the tweets

hoping for a ‘sinister’

i haven’t been able to do enough day drinking yet today

I keep having to remind myself that PR and JN are/were Mermaids' witnesses!

Everything I have read here and on Tribunal Tweets makes them sound entirely LGBT unless the lesbians happen to be straight males.

What is the actual format here? Are witnesses being examined by both sides, so JN will get his chance to rant about LGBA to Mermaids' barrister?

Sinister!

DRINK!