How significant is this report that claims the public feels police officers are "more interested in being woke than solving crimes"?

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Home Secretary should reform failing police forces - think tank https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-627323366^

Very pleased to see this statement, and the BBC reporting it, but is it going to make a difference?

This is a public website. Anyone can read it

I was willing to read the actual case law

This is a very recent judgment, there isn't necessarily any case law yet. Read the judgment.

They are Harry Miller's pressure group. It's purely for information on how his judgment is being misinterpreted by some police officers. You are anonymous, it's not about you personally.

www.faircop.org.uk/

But the woman who had a sticker in her own home that you'd have put a non crime hate incident against, is fair game?

Good to know how this all works.

Here is a blog about the revised guidelines. Fair Cop don't think they have revised them sufficiently in all elements and may take further legal action.

https://www.faircop.org.uk/non-crime-hate-incidents-updated-guidance/

However, the revised guidance is not the end of this story. The Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 20222^ which received Royal Assent in April 2022, included provisions to allow the Home Secretary to issue a statutory code of practice about the recording and retention of personal data relating to non-crime hate incidents. The College of Policing is currently engaged in developing this code to ensure it and the updated APP ‘fully align’. We may see the code in late 2022 or early 2023.

It may therefore be sensible to wait for this code and any further revisions of the APP which it requires and decide then if an action in judicial review is justified.

Someone has already asked for my badge no and name

Pretty sure she was being tongue in cheek.

So you get the issue now huh?

You'll have to contact Mumsnet for that, no one here can do it.

So you get the issue now huh?

Yes, amazing how it suddenly becomes a problem.

It really is quite breathtaking, as I said.

Now, think about how a woman might feel having 2 cops round for a sticker?

Which could appear on an enhanced DBS. For a non crime incident.

Have a little more of a think about why people have an issue with vexatious complaints being recorded about them, tutu.

The incident with the woman who had a sticker on her door and was visited by the PCSO - this woman had already had a visit from two 'proper' Police Officers who talked to her and went away leaving her assured that there wasn't a problem with the sticker the PCSO then turns up and delivers her ranty, political lecture full of all the Stonewall soundbites. Yes I fully agree that the woman should complain about the PCSO and would have an excellent case against them, however, if she does so she will be identified and then mere cannon fodder for the TRAs, she will have to face the Police complaints procedure - no wonder she is terrified, did you not hear how upset and scared she was on that recording? The woman is unlikely to be tough enough to withstand what she would have to if she complained and that is a major problem.

@stillvicarinatutu no-one on here has called you an old hag and no-one would - misogyny is not tolerated on this board.

She called us "harridans" though.

I have no idea who you are. I asked for your name and badge as a joke because you called us offensive names, to demonstrate how this works.

If you still don't get what the problem here is, I cannot help you.

On the topic of NCHIs and DBS checks, here's a Reddit thread from a while ago.

The OP claims that a NCHI was recorded against them without their knowledge, and they only found out about it because it did show up on a DBS check.

Their ''crime'' (non-crime) was being a 'Leave' supporter (Brexit), and campaigning using materials that were approved by the Electoral Commission. The ''victim'' decided the OP was 'motivated by dislike of minority racial groups'.

The charity the OP was applying to volunteer for turned down their application because of the NCHI.

www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/kqe26d/nonecrime_hate_incident_help_needed/

Vicar I know your name of old, you are I think new to the complexities of the new ways of thinking? We are fighting for you as well as ourselves, you might hate us right now but we still fight on, in your name and our daughters' names as well as our own.

I hope you're okay, the truth, as they say, will set you free but first you will be very very angry. (paraphrase) I am not being facetious (sp)