Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

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This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

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Yes, we stopped the march. That was the intention. To disrupt and to get our point made. We did tell the police that we'd march on in front but they wouldn't let us. The Pride organisers obviously wouldn't have let us march in the parade.

Were you the couple with the children in rainbow fairy wings and rainbow leggings? You've clearly talked about sexual differences and sexuality. You've brought your children to a parade where they could see all kinds of kink on display, including gay men in chaps and bare bums, men dressed as babies, men in drag. Did you take them through the marketplace at the end of the parade? How did you explain all the dildos and harnesses and stuff on sale there to the children?

Pride has always been about sex and sexuality. It was never for children (and I've been attending since the late 1980s, when you could be sacked for being LGB). Anyone who takes children to it and is then offended by the word penis needs to stop and think a bit deeper.

There might have been one or two angry people (I didn't see it) but generally there was samba music and people waiting to continue.

Oh it's fine if lesbians feel excluded as long as you get your samba music and family fun 🙄 We all know there's worse at the average pride than penis banners.

Pride is a protest, not a family day out. If the word penis on a banner offends you then maybe stay home with your precious kids.

What kind of nutjobbery have we reached when it's highly progressive to take your kids to a parade to celebrate adult babies and bare bummed men in chaps and explain about lovely liberal tolerance while at the same time showing them that those females over there who are same sex attracted and say so and say no to having sex with males regardless of what those males want to be validated as by them, (and that's the one and only issue really) and are protesting this, are wrong and must be shunned and shamed and excluded for their bad sexual habits?

At this point we might as well be honest that it's Pride In My Penis marching and be done with it. Mens sexual rights movement.

Dear oh dear. I did wonder if that might have been the case. That picture from a few years back of the child patting the 'pup' has stayed with me as an example of what happens when parents try to be so open-minded that their brains fall out.

Penis on a banner = no!

Penis on a lesbian = ok!

Crazy world we live in 🙃

Completely agree with you.

Are you not embarrassed that a march meant to advocate for same-sex attracted people has been taken over by heterosexual men with kinks?

Do you think that men displaying their kinks is acceptable at Pride? Or, given you took your children there, do you think it shouldn't be allowed?

you didn't just try to march in front did you? You stopped the march. Especially the lady in a mobilty scooter who didn't move with the others.

That was Jenni S on Dwain, was she there with her husband?

I think the penis banner was uncalled for at a family event. Assume the police agreed as it was soon put away.

Strangely, the police didn't object to the wording on any banner. The police officer assigned to engage me in conversation said they were sympathetic to our views and that as lesbians we should be permitted to march. All our banners were put away after 15 minutes when we'd achieved what we wanted to achieve and took the communal decision to leave.

But that doesn't explain why there are so many compliant women. Why are so many women on the side of men who want to cosplay at being women rather than standing up for their own rights?

Lots of women seem to believe their worth is is wrapped up male approval.

Also, if you want to be seen to be on the 'right' side of any successful movement, a male sexual rights movement has goods odds, certainly better than anything to do with women boundaries.

I really didn't see much kinks.
I didn't see any dildo shops.
I stuck to the family area as I felt this was well segregated and more appropriate. I would not have stayed long in the main area.
My kids were not wearing rainbows and wings. Although they love rainbows.
My kids are open minded but I stick to what is appropriate for their age.
I am glad you got some publicity for your protest and that the police had a calm response.

I was handed out rainbow god leaflets, but the group didn't name themselves.

OK my last post here.

Don't just run away. Tell us what you think Pride is about and why you took your children to it? Do you have any idea of the background of Pride? Do you have any awareness of the stigma that LGB suffered only 25 or so years ago? Were you aware that we had fewer human rights than straight people here in the the UK? That we could be sacked for being LGB? That LGB teachers lived in fear under Section 28 in case anyone accused them of promoting homosexuality? That under the old Goods and Services Act it was lawful for bars, restaurants, hotels etc to turn LGB people away because they were LGB? I'm presuming you're too young to have lived through AIDS and have had people terrified of any kind of contact with LGB people?

And now what started as a protest is just a nice rainbow-coloured family day out for you? Do you have any idea how offensive that attitude is? Please do a bit of research and think more carefully about what you're exposing your children to.

Taking young kids to pride is peak foolery.

It's not about showing your kids rainbows and posting in your insta. It's about important issues regarding sexuality, like this.

It's not for kids. It's about ADULT SEXUALITY.

That's odd, I thought you were just saying what all women really thought, but now it seems most women don't agree with you?

It was just about equality of human and civil rights for same sex attracted people. That was all.

To not be sacked for being discovered to be gay.
To not be in a hospital waiting room where your partner of x years was being treated, with no entitlement to information because your relationship has no meaning, and their family, who may be hostile, can come in and make decisions over you for your partner despite that you share a home.
To be able to recognise your partner of decades in your will and in legal rights so that if you die they're not left unprotected.
To NOT be seen as a pervert or a risk to kids or any less moral or socially appropriate than a straight person, or someone inherently evil.

We're talking mid 80s, not that long ago in the UK. And right now you can go to youtube and see awful, terrible films of sobbing men being hurled off buildings for the sin of loving another man.

It was not us who declared this was all about sexuality, meaning sex, meaning how far can we push the boundaries, and a lot of feather boas and rainbows while homophobes took over all the fun bits and the publicity and made it a celebration of look at me.

Where are the homosexuals who were marching 30 years ago and remember the actual battle for rights? Most of them wouldn't go to Pride now if you bloody paid them, and I'm one of them.

@Artichokeleaves It was about that and it was not that long ago. But in the early 90s it began to change as there was a struggle between mainly gay men who wanted Pride to be a party, and other LGB people who wanted it to be political. For a while it tried to be both, but then morphed into just a party.
This came mainly from partying gay men.
There are some LGBT people from back then who still go to Pride, especially smaller local ones. But the larger ones that are about partying naturally attract a younger crowd.

That's not what she's saying, though, is it. Only a few women go to Pride, and other posts on this thread have explained how it has changed over the years and why many older lesbians and gay men don't go any more. It's the women who do go along who seem to have a problem with the old and still mainstream definition of lesbianism.

How many Prides recently have you all been to? They happen all around the country. There is so much bollocks written on this thread. Only a few women go to Pride?? What in the whole of the country? There were lots of women at my local Pride.
Many of you have either not been to a Pride ever, or not been to one for years. You just read twitter and think you know what every pride is like all around the country based on some tweets.

I think many homosexual people would be fine with staying at home and letting the young crowd have an increasingly wild rainbow Pride party if they'd had the courtesy to have names and identities of their own.

Instead of rebranding lesbian to mean anyone of any sex who happens to like the label, and homosexual as homogenderal (with a side order of increasingly overt homophobia) and 'LGB (as well as everything else) is all about kink and sex'.

Rather like had the TQ+ lobby gone for third spaces and calling themselves TW instead of insisting they were female women, biology doesn't exist and rape/death threats if you say hang on a minute, there'd be no scenes at all as they were at this Pride.

There were a couple of drag queens on the Pride I went to. You would have photographed them and a few trans people and claimed on twitter that this was what the Pride was like.
In reality there were a lot of older lesbians and gay men, various community organisations such as a local choir and football group, and some kids.

Only a few women go to Pride??

She quite clearly meant out of all women in the country.

antelopevalley

This is what @CardiffPridedisrupter described as being at her Pride, not just a "couple of drag queens":

You've brought your children to a parade where they could see all kinds of kink on display, including gay men in chaps and bare bums, men dressed as babies, men in drag. Did you take them through the marketplace at the end of the parade? How did you explain all the dildos and harnesses and stuff on sale there to the children?

I'm also intrigued by the suggestion that women wearing "frocks and makeup" are the wrong kind of women, somehow. I could certainly produce many photos of Gender Critical women wearing those things, so I'm not quite sure what the problem is there.

Well that has always been the case. Most women are not lesbians.