Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

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This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

No, you're wrong. Google a word next time you don't understand it and that should clear things up.

OMG, you asked google for a synonym

"Definition of distinct

1 : distinguishable to the eye or mind as being discrete (see discrete sense 1) or not the same : separate "

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/distinct

You know what a synonym is? It's a word that "means exactly or nearly the same as another word". You could try Googling that too you know.

The definition of "different" is also "not the same : separate ".

It must have been tough teaching you English at school.

so why DO discrete (not the same, separate) versions of Pride exist solely for trans people?

I think you mean 'distinct'. It's to raise awareness of trans issues and have a fun day out.

Synonym "means exactly or nearly the same as another word"

Please someone appreciate the irony of typing this when the word you are attempting to define is 'distinct'

Anyway, another synonym for 'distinct' is 'unique'. Again, you were arguing that every group's views were unique to that group.

Obviously bullshitting comes easily to those who have been brainwashed….

so it would be fine to have a lesbian pride too? Or an LGB pride? How about an LGB charity… as in an alliance?

I do mean discrete, btw.
I took your advice and googled it.

You struggle to understand basic political concepts. I get that now

Just as you don't understand the difference between gender identity and sexual orientation.

Yeah, thanks for flagging this up.👌

It's a sign of the bad faith at the heart of this troll's arguments that they claim an organisation like LGB Alliance is homophobic, just because it's an organisation that explicitly caters to the needs of...homosexuals.

I can confirm this perspective, too.

I expect a big chunk of those 20% straights will be parents or siblings of LGB teens/adults and/or teachers/HCPs/other professionals that have an interest in LGB rights beyond the theoretical.

I agree with all of this. The only people standing up for what Pride actually means (or used to) were kicked out by the Police at the bequest of angry party people.

I await Mark Drakeford and Jane Hutt's statement of solidarity with the lesbians who were told to leave Pride by the Police.

Oh dear!

Hearache does it again.

How not very discreet it is to point out typos that are in fact, exactly the word cloglady meant.

And someone telling us all about their expertise in statistical analysis on discrete data sets supposedly too…

Yep! Hilarious.

This is priceless today!!!

LGBT people are a distinct community within the general population with distinct opinions

Why do you think polls are weighted by age, gender, region and voting record? Because those are distinct demographics with distinct views.

Poll 1,000 people aged 18-24 and they'll have different views to those aged over 65.

Poll 1,000 LGBT people and they'll have different views to 1,000 straight people.

1,000 women will have different views to 1,000 men and as we saw in the EU referendum people in Scotland have different views to those in England and Wales on Brexit.

No. This Because those are distinct demographics with distinct views is a whole load of crap.

If you honestly believe that LGBT all think the same, you are indeed so far deeply entrenched that you cannot see any reality at all. There is absolutely no evidence in the UK that LGBT people all hold 'distinct' opinions.

They may have a propensity to hold certain beliefs more than others, but they will overlap with the general population. They also make up the general population and don't exist in a bubble. So, how do you plan to prevent a leaking between these 'discrete' populations?

Poll 1,000 people aged 18-24 and they'll have different views to those aged over 65.

No. They may have a skew towards the strength they might hold a certain view, but I doubt they will be a discrete data set. In my years of quantitive research analysis, I have not seen this event you are stating happens. All ages will share certain views, the degree to which they feel strongly either way needs to also be considered.

Poll 1,000 LGBT people and they'll have different views to 1,000 straight people.

You have to seriously unable to recognise that there are trans people who are 'straight' plus unable to recognise that not all LGBT people think alike to write this.

Hope that helps! always happy to teach you about politics as well as LGBT issues.

Consider me a 'student' and explain to me exactly what you mean by weighted by age, gender, region and voting record?

Now, don't disappoint me here. Remember you are telling everyone that I am no expert at anything, please.... explain what you mean here like I am your 'student'?

Coming back to this now that I am on my PC.

Yes, quite familiar with sample biases and how to deal with them.

Again though, I did not say this was an LGBT specific poll. And I did have access to the data, (it was Centre for political studies) but they have removed access to it now. I would assume since Dr Luntz is a consultant, his data handling would be scrutinised since the poll was sponsored by a political party and they used it to make decisions on their future policies.

But you don't have to hold that view for sure.

Either way, again, I ask the question.

And yet, why would you think that LGBT people will be any more or less tolerant?

What evidence do you have to support that? Your anecdotes?

And sorry, your bizarre trip into populations and 'distinctness' actually was not helpful at all.... rather like you don't actually understand the nature of people's opinions other than your own....

By the way, a tad hard to 'weight' for the 'T' wouldn't you say? Considering how many we know lied in the census.....

Making weighting for LGBT like a finger in the air and pick a number type exercise.

Too late

and too little

much, much, much too little 😟

Oh, oh...I think I know this one! Is it Takeover?

'Transvestite' according to Christine Burns whose book you were plugging.

Heterosexual transvestite = good, homosexual transsexual = bad, according to Burns.

@Hearach15

Is the LGBT community the same group as L, B, G and T people ? If not, what's the difference and to what degree do you consider it acceptable for the former to speak for the latter?

If it's valid that women as a statistical group may have different opinions, social needs and political positions to men as a statistical group, is it valid that people AFAB as group may have different opinions, social needs and political positions to people AMAB as a group? If not, why not?

Thank you @Hearach15 for posting in this thread.

I really appreciate each post bump as it results in more readers, who can see the sunlight that shines upon your lies and gaslighting.

Statistically speaking, your posts reflect the lengths the TRA movement will go to, so you're helping to peak more people. This is great work!

The Emperor has no clothes indeed!