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ZombieMumEB · 2022-08-27T13:01:21+00:00

This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women. Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse. https://twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

AgnestaVipers · 30/08/2022 01:49

Talking to one of these TRAs is like being in a chapter of Alice in Wonderland. They have a completely distorted view of reality.

It's really very simple.

There are two sexes.

Lesbian isn't an identity. It's a sexuality. It's being a woman who is same sex attracted.

Any woman willing to have sex with someone male is bisexual or straight.

Lesbians won't sleep with trans identified males. This doesn't make them transphobic. It makes them lesbians.

Men or women calling lesbians transphobic for not sleeping with men are part of rape culture.

Finally, the LGBT 'community' doesn't exist. There are just those drawn to current LGBT+ ideology, and those who aren't.

I am a lesbian who has come to despise the rainbow flag and the people who call themselves part of this community. I see them as uncritical or brainwashed or malignant or a mixture of all three. Many of my gay and lesbian friends feel the same.

So the people who you think are in the community are only a small part of it, and you all think alike. You're part of a groupthink that many of us find dangerous and pitiful.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 04:57

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Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 04:59

Because ’they don't want to be associated with the G or the B either’. bares little resemblance to what Get the L out is protesting or wants.

Artichokeleaves · 30/08/2022 08:20

Hearach15 · 29/08/2022 21:52

When have I ever said lesbians should "be willing to have sex with males?" 😂

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No I'm not playing silly games with you about whether or not male people stop being male people when they define their gender identity as something different. You can believe whatever you like, and call it homosexuality: what I require is that you equally respect in turn that those of us who don't share this belief and actually are sex based exclusively homosexual don't get pushed out and trampled and told (as you are doing here) that actual homosexuals are a stupid minority who are wrong and have no right to be treated with any respect.

I'm still grinning at being told I have little idea as a homosexual female about homosexuality because that really says it all.

I have, for decades, managed to be exclusively attracted to and exclusively have my sexual relationships with biologically adult females. I managed this without your 'education' or any confusion about who I was attracted to, what it was called, finding other females like me and happily just cracking on with it. Homosexual people do not need training, educating and sorting out by you, because it's not a political position of right think, it's just basic human instinct.

Play your gender games all you like, call yourselves bright new exciting names, take over Pride and every LGBT space and place with your new and improved and superior sexuality types, have a lovely time and I will wish you well. Just don't take over and rebrand me, and demand that I pretend what is not true and that I can't be homosexual unless you deign to teach me how to do it properly because you can't have a space of your own or an identity of your own, you have to mug me for mine.

The arrogance is off the scale.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/08/2022 08:21

AgnestaVipers · 30/08/2022 01:49

Talking to one of these TRAs is like being in a chapter of Alice in Wonderland. They have a completely distorted view of reality.

It's really very simple.

There are two sexes.

Lesbian isn't an identity. It's a sexuality. It's being a woman who is same sex attracted.

Any woman willing to have sex with someone male is bisexual or straight.

Lesbians won't sleep with trans identified males. This doesn't make them transphobic. It makes them lesbians.

Men or women calling lesbians transphobic for not sleeping with men are part of rape culture.

Finally, the LGBT 'community' doesn't exist. There are just those drawn to current LGBT+ ideology, and those who aren't.

I am a lesbian who has come to despise the rainbow flag and the people who call themselves part of this community. I see them as uncritical or brainwashed or malignant or a mixture of all three. Many of my gay and lesbian friends feel the same.

So the people who you think are in the community are only a small part of it, and you all think alike. You're part of a groupthink that many of us find dangerous and pitiful.

Great post, Agnesta.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 08:30

Artichokeleaves · 30/08/2022 08:20

No I'm not playing silly games with you about whether or not male people stop being male people when they define their gender identity as something different. You can believe whatever you like, and call it homosexuality: what I require is that you equally respect in turn that those of us who don't share this belief and actually are sex based exclusively homosexual don't get pushed out and trampled and told (as you are doing here) that actual homosexuals are a stupid minority who are wrong and have no right to be treated with any respect.

I'm still grinning at being told I have little idea as a homosexual female about homosexuality because that really says it all.

I have, for decades, managed to be exclusively attracted to and exclusively have my sexual relationships with biologically adult females. I managed this without your 'education' or any confusion about who I was attracted to, what it was called, finding other females like me and happily just cracking on with it. Homosexual people do not need training, educating and sorting out by you, because it's not a political position of right think, it's just basic human instinct.

Play your gender games all you like, call yourselves bright new exciting names, take over Pride and every LGBT space and place with your new and improved and superior sexuality types, have a lovely time and I will wish you well. Just don't take over and rebrand me, and demand that I pretend what is not true and that I can't be homosexual unless you deign to teach me how to do it properly because you can't have a space of your own or an identity of your own, you have to mug me for mine.

The arrogance is off the scale.

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Another clear post.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 09:25

Just posting this link from GB News last night. Another Butterworth special.

from 1:10.

This seriously followed how the posts on here run. The dishonesty, the pivoting, the sparple, throwing around of transphobic and homophobic, the eventual deterioration into name calling, all by someone who declared to ‘know’ what the majority believe. And on GB News, Butterworth dismissing a gay man who was saying ‘hang on, so many of us now don’t go to these events it is ridiculous to say that ‘you know’ when you clearly don’t’. (Me paraphrasing the host).

Remarkable how Butterworth absolutely nails the extreme activist posts on this board.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 09:34

And anyone wanting to hear from Angela herself about what ‘Get the L out’ did and didn’t do and what they are protesting for, GB news had her on too.

twitter.com/gbnews/status/1563977823957749772?s=21&t=6Bwkeu6wroLJrrW3Cs5klQ

With Andrew Doyle. Another gay man and part of the LGB community .

Surprising how if you get away from Pride events, there are many LGB people telling the world that they support homosexuals who don’t agree with their words being changed. But of course, there is no evidence to support the ‘majority LGB’ people agree with any particular view. It has never been surveyed by a fully independent organisation.

If it had been, we would have had those links posted as soon as the results were published.

As it is, it is sometimes like Butterworth is being channeled on these threads.

NecessaryScene · 30/08/2022 09:43

Ooh, ooh, I know this one. It's "Happily brainwashed and joyfully part of the rainbow family! 🏳️‍🌈"

I've got another comic strip for this one. The proper lesbian is the woman inside the bar here.

The woman who's just been thrown out of the lesbian bar for refusing the male's advances is not a proper lesbian.

Courtesy of Tatsuya Ishida's Sinfest strip yesterday.

This current series of strips starts here.

Snoodsy · 30/08/2022 10:12

When women are doing nothing wrong but marching at a planned Pride event, gets the “Sorry Madam, we don’t want to upset the men, so for your safety you better leave.”

INSTEAD of removing the ignorant loudmouth fool.

ALTHOUGH they WERE told they could trail along the very butt end of the parade, where nobody could see them. ALL WOMEN AT THE BACK OF THE BUS I mean parade.

please.

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 10:14

They were not only marching, they were carrying banners about getting the L out.

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IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2022 10:30

@antelopevalley what's wrong with the banners?

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 10:35

They were not only marching, they were carrying banners about getting the L out.

Excellent. A good old fashioned protest then! Probably from some of the lesbians who were actively involved in starting these type of events in the first place.

Taking it back to the grass roots!

IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2022 10:47

There are loads of banners at Pride, do you want to ban...erm...banners?

Or just these particular ones. If it's this, then what's wrong with them?

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 11:11

I am saying it is disingenuous to say they were banned for being marching lesbians. They were banned for their type of protest.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2022 11:22

So not the banners?

What then?

NecessaryScene · 30/08/2022 11:30

What then?

Saying they don't do penis, of course. They don't have to do penis, but for fuck's sake, they shouldn't be proud of it and start waving banners about it!

In a fucking Pride march of all places...

At least it wasn't in Pride month.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 11:33

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 11:11

I am saying it is disingenuous to say they were banned for being marching lesbians. They were banned for their type of protest.

There ‘type’ of protest?

So what was on the banners? If you are seriously calling their protest out as being an issue, at least have the honesty to explain exactly why, in your mind, they were a problem.

Not hedging around. Just some honest explanation.

Caroffee · 30/08/2022 11:51

Artichokeleaves · 30/08/2022 08:20

No I'm not playing silly games with you about whether or not male people stop being male people when they define their gender identity as something different. You can believe whatever you like, and call it homosexuality: what I require is that you equally respect in turn that those of us who don't share this belief and actually are sex based exclusively homosexual don't get pushed out and trampled and told (as you are doing here) that actual homosexuals are a stupid minority who are wrong and have no right to be treated with any respect.

I'm still grinning at being told I have little idea as a homosexual female about homosexuality because that really says it all.

I have, for decades, managed to be exclusively attracted to and exclusively have my sexual relationships with biologically adult females. I managed this without your 'education' or any confusion about who I was attracted to, what it was called, finding other females like me and happily just cracking on with it. Homosexual people do not need training, educating and sorting out by you, because it's not a political position of right think, it's just basic human instinct.

Play your gender games all you like, call yourselves bright new exciting names, take over Pride and every LGBT space and place with your new and improved and superior sexuality types, have a lovely time and I will wish you well. Just don't take over and rebrand me, and demand that I pretend what is not true and that I can't be homosexual unless you deign to teach me how to do it properly because you can't have a space of your own or an identity of your own, you have to mug me for mine.

The arrogance is off the scale.

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@Artichokeleaves Extremely well-said!

Datun · 30/08/2022 12:08

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 11:11

I am saying it is disingenuous to say they were banned for being marching lesbians. They were banned for their type of protest.

But that's exactly what they were banned for, marching lesbians.

That's exactly what those women are, what they say they are, and what they want to remain as.

The issue, is how pride has been colonised and captured by heterosexual males, in order to exclude the very people it was designed to advocate for.

The fact that people recognise that lesbians saying they are lesbian is a problem, is extraordinary! In a march, the entire purpose of which was to promote lesbianism (homosexuality in general).

If you understand that a march designed for lesbians is now having a problem with lesbianism, there's no way you can call it 'disingenuous'. Disgusting, scandalous, homophobic, discriminatory, prejudicial and bigoted, yes. Disingenuous? no.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/08/2022 15:43

Saying they don't do penis, of course. They don't have to do penis, but for fuck's sake, they shouldn't be proud of it and start waving banners about it!

Exactly. If you can't see that antelopevalley, you're not an ally to gay people and lesbians.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/08/2022 15:44

"Pride is a protest"

"No, not that kind of protest!"

Pluvia · 30/08/2022 16:29

NecessaryScene · 30/08/2022 11:30

What then?

Saying they don't do penis, of course. They don't have to do penis, but for fuck's sake, they shouldn't be proud of it and start waving banners about it!

In a fucking Pride march of all places...

At least it wasn't in Pride month.

Is this for real? Haven't read the full thread so no idea how it ended up with this — but tell me it's ironic, Necessary Scene. Please.

Artichokeleaves · 30/08/2022 16:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/08/2022 15:43

Saying they don't do penis, of course. They don't have to do penis, but for fuck's sake, they shouldn't be proud of it and start waving banners about it!

Exactly. If you can't see that antelopevalley, you're not an ally to gay people and lesbians.

Quite.

We are back to: if you must do something a bit dirty and shameful like insist on being homosexual and not be open to sex based on someone's personal self definition of sex instead of your perception of the reality of their biological sex.... then at least do it behind closed doors and don't talk about it in polite society.

Particularly at Gay Pride.

ffs.

Be a pro lesbian/gay/homosexual
A neolesbian or neosexual
Pan sexual
Transbian
Have words you can celebrate! Have identities alongside. Have all the identities, flags and all.

Just don't colonise other populations and identities and stomp the indiginous peoples and their own identities and cultures and languages and beliefs out of existence on the grounds that they're backward and stupid and your way is obviously much more progressive and they'd be much better doing what you say, in your way and forgetting their backwardness. Or just being pushed out of sight of decent people.

Possibly onto reservations.