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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What is Allison Bailey's spaghetti briefcase?

375 replies

Drastic · 20/08/2022 13:20

Like the title says really, I'm seeing it all over twitter today and I haven't got a clue what it's about.

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YouHaveAnArse · 24/08/2022 17:32

ScreamingMeMe · 24/08/2022 16:34

Exactly, there are doxes, violent threats and images and porn and worse flying about on twitter and Reddit all the time. Reddit has some dreadful woman-hating threads where they celebrate women getting punched or post images of drunk women 'acting slutty' and so on.

A huge chunk of the internet is a cesspit

Nah, the farms go further and publish home addresses, and in some cases familes' home addresses - Karen Davies being a good example. Though it's been a useful lesson in how much information about oneself even the most careful internet user has out there.

Haunteddancer · 24/08/2022 17:53

publish home addresses, and in some cases familes' home addresses

Did these people speak out when JK Rowling's home address was doxxed and she had TRA's at her house when her family was there?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander

ScreamingMeMe · 24/08/2022 18:20

YouHaveAnArse · 24/08/2022 17:32

Nah, the farms go further and publish home addresses, and in some cases familes' home addresses - Karen Davies being a good example. Though it's been a useful lesson in how much information about oneself even the most careful internet user has out there.

Yes, that's what doxing is. It happens other places too. And as I said in my previous post I don't condone it.

A TRA doxed a bunch of GC women on twitter and Wordpress the other week: there's a thread about it on here somewhere.

QuornintheUSA · 25/08/2022 13:37

Majorie Taylor Greene is calling for Kiwi Farms to be shut down, disappointing as I thought she was one of us

www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-ironically-blasts-trans-hate-forum-after-swatting-1736699

ArabellaScott · 25/08/2022 13:55

QuornintheUSA · 25/08/2022 13:37

Majorie Taylor Greene is calling for Kiwi Farms to be shut down, disappointing as I thought she was one of us

www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-ironically-blasts-trans-hate-forum-after-swatting-1736699

'one of us' - one of whom, exactly? This is some US politician I've never heard of. Away with the weak attempt at forced teaming.

OrwellFan · 25/08/2022 14:12

ArabellaScott · 25/08/2022 13:55

'one of us' - one of whom, exactly? This is some US politician I've never heard of. Away with the weak attempt at forced teaming.

She's a US Republican who wants to pass a bill protecting children from gender-affirming medical care - she's a fantastic woman.

DarkDayforMN · 25/08/2022 14:23

Majorie Taylor Greene is calling for Kiwi Farms to be shut down, disappointing as I thought she was one of us

You lot remind me of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. I don't know who your "us" is but for the record my concept of "us" does not include Marjorie Taylor Greene, and it does not include Kiwi Farms, and it most definitely does not include you. wraps towel around head

Helleofabore · 25/08/2022 14:25

OrwellFan · 25/08/2022 14:12

She's a US Republican who wants to pass a bill protecting children from gender-affirming medical care - she's a fantastic woman.

Nah. You are all right to think that, but I doubt you are here to actually offer support to either Allison Bailey, or really, even Taylor Greene.

I would also say you have no idea what feminists actually think about this topic.

Quando · 25/08/2022 14:43

I would also say you have no idea what feminists actually think about this topic.

Speaking of this topic, it turns out that Allison has deleted the tweet that sparked the thread.

Helleofabore · 25/08/2022 14:52

Oh.... And what tweet was it that sparked this thread that Allison has deleted?

I don't recall this thread being about a tweet that Allison made....

Perhaps you might like to clarify.

Helleofabore · 25/08/2022 15:01

she was one of us

I suspect she is not a feminist who is interested in preserving female's sex based rights.

Are you?

DarkDayforMN · 25/08/2022 15:01

Speaking of this topic,

How do you do, fellow humans?

SlowDog · 25/08/2022 16:50

Well I looked at the Wikipedia page for Marjorie Taylor Greene (I know Wikipedia is not perfect, but this is an article with 381 references and a long talk section where various parts of the article were debated and voted on) It says she:

  • promoted white-supremacist and antisemitic conspiracy theories
  • compared COVID safety measures to persecution of Jews in Holocaust
  • promoted Russian propaganda and praised Putin
  • posted COVID vaccine misinformation
  • claimed that Trump actually won the 2020 election in a landslide
  • opposes abortion
  • opposes any law that would make it harder for people to possess guns
  • rejects the scientific consensus on climate change
  • does not believe in evolution

People can of course decide if those are good or bad things, or if MTG has other qualities that would overshadow all of those. But if the Wikipedia article itself is bad/biased it would be useful to know that (with some evidence).

yourhairiswinterfire · 25/08/2022 17:00

Speaking of this topic, it turns out that Allison has deleted the tweet that sparked the thread.

No she hasn't.

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1560533310140518400?cxt=HHwWgMC4seGxkKgrAAAA

ErrolTheDragon · 25/08/2022 17:11

Does this need repeating?
This is some US politician I've never heard of. Away with the weak attempt at forced teaming.

SlowDog · 25/08/2022 17:43

Trans Twitch streamer Keffals has had her minions gong after the site's host because Kiwi Farms has been 'unkind' about her apparently. Someone needs to grow up and get a thicker skin I feel, the days of #bekind are over.

According to the article link posted here by QuornInTheUSA:
Keffals was swatted in London, Ontario, earlier this month after her home address was shared on Kiwi Farms. Keffals later moved to a hotel to escape further harassment but was doxxed again after obsessive users of the forum discovered where she was staying by cross-referencing a photo that she had shared of her bedsheets to sheets used by hotels in the area.

I hadn't heard of swatting before, but I see that it involves tricking the police into raiding the person's residence.

Is this what was being referred to in the comment that Keffals needs to "grow up and get a thicker skin" and "the days of #bekind are over"? I personally would feel terrified if the police raided my house or if strangers on the Internet were tracking me down when I was staying in a hotel.

[I have not the slightest clue who Keffals is, by the way]

ArabellaScott · 25/08/2022 18:04

yourhairiswinterfire · 25/08/2022 17:00

Speaking of this topic, it turns out that Allison has deleted the tweet that sparked the thread.

No she hasn't.

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1560533310140518400?cxt=HHwWgMC4seGxkKgrAAAA

Yes, it looks like Joanne Harris has deleted a tweet. Not Allison Bailey.

TheBeardedVulture · 25/08/2022 18:11

Interesting. Did the article about the doxing of Keffals mention all the underage boys they’ve groomed? Or the DIY HRT Keffals promotes?

Keffals was not swatted. A SWAT team did not knock down their door and hold Keffals at gunpoint as a result of a crank call. Keffals was instead visited by police, same as Marjorie Taylor Greene. It’s worth mentioning that Keffals has raised around 100k from Their gullible followers as a result of this police visit.

Keffals has also wished that other people be swatted, prior to their own swatting.

Much as KF is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, it publishes publicly available information. It does not allow trolling plans or illegal activity, which includes swatting, DDOS, child sexual abuse material, or death threats. The site is extremely pro freedom of speech, and had meticulously archived the dodgy activities of a large number of internet creepy and weirdos. Including those who, say, promote homebrew, Unprescribed estrogen to children.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/08/2022 18:15

Can I suggest that if anyone wants to talk about these people who've somehow popped up on this thread for no reason remotely connected to the topic of Allison Bailey being subjected to nasty tweets, they make themselves another thread?

ScreamingMeMe · 25/08/2022 18:15

ArabellaScott · 25/08/2022 18:04

Yes, it looks like Joanne Harris has deleted a tweet. Not Allison Bailey.

Christ the replies to that. What awful, painfully stupid, dishonest people.

ScreamingMeMe · 25/08/2022 18:16

They'll sneer at other people, but keep repeating their stupid takes on JK Rowling and her writing.

Yunstytea · 25/08/2022 18:50

Is this what was being referred to in the comment that Keffals needs to "grow up and get a thicker skin" and "the days of #bekind are over"? I personally would feel terrified if the police raided my house or if strangers on the Internet were tracking me down when I was staying in a hotel.

I don't remember hearing Keffals speaking up when JK Rowling got doxxed and 'visited' by angry TRAs.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/08/2022 21:24

I hadn't heard of swatting before, but I see that it involves tricking the police into raiding the person's residence.

Justine could tell you about it, she got swatted, along with another female mumsnet poster, by an MRA. Nothing to do with trans, the regular type.

impossiblelist · 25/08/2022 21:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/08/2022 21:24

I hadn't heard of swatting before, but I see that it involves tricking the police into raiding the person's residence.

Justine could tell you about it, she got swatted, along with another female mumsnet poster, by an MRA. Nothing to do with trans, the regular type.

Kiwifarms is pure MRA.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/08/2022 22:21

I think there are a variety of views on Kiwi Farms, some are certainly MRA. The incident I mentioned was nothing to do with Kiwi Farms.

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