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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What is Allison Bailey's spaghetti briefcase?

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Drastic · 20/08/2022 13:20

Like the title says really, I'm seeing it all over twitter today and I haven't got a clue what it's about.

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ScreamingMeMe · 22/08/2022 20:21

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Why though, out of all the threads on here?

ScreamingMeMe · 22/08/2022 20:22

Rhetorical question. Who knows what goes on in these people's minds?

Helleofabore · 22/08/2022 20:46

ScreamingMeMe · 22/08/2022 20:21

Why though, out of all the threads on here?

For last couple of weeks it has been any LGB threads and Baroness Nicholson threads on FWR. Why? We can guess.

Helleofabore · 22/08/2022 20:50

To clarify, there has been a particular pattern to some brand new posters. Don’t troll hunt, just report straight away any you suspect.

ScreamingMeMe · 22/08/2022 21:27

Yes, and don't respond to private messages from brand new posters: they are most likely looking for more screenshots/trolling opportunities

VestofAbsurdity · 22/08/2022 21:28

ScreamingMeMe · 22/08/2022 20:20

Ah yes I had one of those. MNHQ banned them after I reported them.

Me too, Screaming, same result. I ignored the message and reported not a chance I would have responded.

WandaWomblesaurus · 23/08/2022 00:19

TRA humour is a bit slippery isn't it?
Like their grip on reality.

They are so literal they cry at being triggered over stickers. Then plaster their own stickers of creepy sloths everywhere.

The Allison Bailey court case was an embarrassment to Stonewall and their support plushies.

Even the people I know who supported them at the start are all sick of them now.

Times up for the crybullies.

ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 07:11

GC people are way funnier anyway. That's just science.

ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 07:30

Although TRA are often unintentionally funny I suppose, with their bundle bungling and their support dogs and support mums, and Katy Montgomerie's amazing propensity for self owning.

onlyweknowthis · 23/08/2022 07:34

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ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 07:47

I suppose actually discussing it with us on here would be far too mature for people who frequent the misogynistic, TRA-run shithole that Reddit has become.

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 07:52

'So, trans activists, why is it you are specifically targeting a black lesbian?'

ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 07:57

"And how could you read through recent court transcripts and conclude that Allison is the incompetent one? Either you're lying to yourselves, you haven't done any reading, or you think it's perfectly fine to repeatedly mess up a bundle (actuallymore than one bundle), and have your mum and dog for support when you're giving evidence."

ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 08:04

Actually, that's the same question, just longer.

DarkDayforMN · 23/08/2022 08:08

I watched Allison Bailey's tribunal. Remembering that, it just struck me with renewed force how fucked up it is that they're trying to caricature her as buffoonish. The clown car worth of GCC witnesses almost universally made idiots of themselves, contradicting themselves and losing their temper and generally being a complete embarrassment to their profession, and of course the Stonewall witnesses are already legendary for all the wrong reasons. By contrast Allison maintained composure and dignity calmly and gracefully on the witness stand for nearly a week.

I didn't twig that it was racism at first, I just thought it didn't make any sense. But now I'm seeing it after understanding what tropes they're drawing from, and fucking hell these bastards make my skin crawl. Solidarity to Allison.

ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 08:13

I suspect a lot of them are Americans who don't have a fucking clue and are just jumping on the hate bandwagon, but the person who started it all knows what they're doing.

DarkDayforMN · 23/08/2022 08:19

I suspect a lot of them are Americans who don't have a fucking clue and are just jumping on the hate bandwagon, but the person who started it all knows what they're doing.

I think it's racism even among the ones who don't know what they're doing. There's a reason they're willing to attach this stereotype to someone who's got more competence and professionalism in her little finger than you could distill out of the entire staff of Stonewall put together.

DadJoke · 23/08/2022 08:24

No, spaghetti appearing at an awkward time isn’t remotely to do with the minstrel tradition or racism - it’s an unrelated shaggy dog meme.

www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/2csxkf/whats_up_with_spaghetti_falling_out_of_4chans/

DarkDayforMN · 23/08/2022 08:26

No, spaghetti appearing at an awkward time isn’t remotely to do with the minstrel tradition or racism - it’s an unrelated shaggy dog meme.

this thread is 12 pages long, your link has already been posted and discussed, thanks for your thoughts though!

ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 08:44

DarkDayforMN · 23/08/2022 08:19

I suspect a lot of them are Americans who don't have a fucking clue and are just jumping on the hate bandwagon, but the person who started it all knows what they're doing.

I think it's racism even among the ones who don't know what they're doing. There's a reason they're willing to attach this stereotype to someone who's got more competence and professionalism in her little finger than you could distill out of the entire staff of Stonewall put together.

Oh sorry I was referring to Allison's level.of competence rather than the racism. You're absolutely right though.

ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 08:45

(As in, they're probably clueless about what actually happened at trail.)

TheBiologyStupid · 23/08/2022 09:04

I watched Allison Bailey's tribunal. Remembering that, it just struck me with renewed force how fucked up it is that they're trying to caricature her as buffoonish. The clown car worth of GCC witnesses almost universally made idiots of themselves, contradicting themselves and losing their temper and generally being a complete embarrassment to their profession, and of course the Stonewall witnesses are already legendary for all the wrong reasons. By contrast Allison maintained composure and dignity calmly and gracefully on the witness stand for nearly a week.

Absolutely, DarkDay - and after being rushed to hospital at the start of the tribunal, too.

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 09:14

We know by now that personal attacks are inevitable when people lack a robust argument.

But I do think the vitriol and viciousness with which Allison is attacked on Twitter can only be fully explained by racism, misogyny and lesbophobia.

Yellowjacket2 · 23/08/2022 09:39

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ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 09:57

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The people who scream "transphobia" at every little thing and regularly come out with absolutely batshit statements are calling US lolcows. Mmmmokay.