Tavistock clinic to close as not safe for children

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Breaking news in the Times and Telegraph:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e1ed2bea-0e63-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=4fa557c3083dee141defde72e0e53d54

Ive reported the thread title - it's misleading as it's only GIDS that are closing and not the rest of the children's services of which there are many wonderful ones who provide life-changing care to children and their families.

This is however, wonderful, news. Although I am scared how it will impact the rest of the services at the Trust.

Exactly this. Great news.

Great news! Children should not be taking these drugs.
Dress how you like, but leave the drugs out of it.

BBC desperately trying to put a positive spin on it!

I know its closure will hit many people hard as it seems to them it is the only place for support but hopefully what is put on place to reach Tavistock will be a huge improvement and much more supportive for those that use the service.

To be replaced by new hubs of multi agency care with proper data collection, set up from the start.

Whatever's in the Cass report, it is obviously going to be absolutely damning if we're seeing tectonic shifts like this.

I would fully expect the total independence from partisan political lobby groups or any group at all with a personal stake in a fixed outcome to be one of the built in conditions from the start since the Tavistock whistle blowers were repeatedly pointing that one out from the first peep.

Fantastic 🎉

Positive as in nothing to see here..

It is very much a shame for the patients who do feel supported their though - whatever our feelings on whether this should happen or not, losing a therapeutic support team is a horrible thing to go through, particularly for those who may have been there a while.

I do not envy the new hubs having to deal with the hand over process from the Tavistock of patients already well down highly confused pathways where data and ethics and total muddle were already muddied waters. How those patients are supported and how the muddle of their care is sorted out is going to be a huge issue. However thank God newly identified children will now have a better service and support.

I want to cry. This is unbelievable news. To know that a proper service will be put in place with good oversight and follow-up of patients - that a ‘holistic’ approach will be taken with comprehensive mental health support from centres of excellence such as GOSH and the Maudsley and Alder Hey. We’ll look back at the Tavistock years as a time when a Dutch experiment was taken up by certain practitioners and allowed to become politicised to the extent there was no scrutiny or room for dissent - it became THE approach to the treatment of gender dysphoria and would countenance no other way. Whether the motivations behind it were well-intentioned, maligned, misguided, sinister, overzealous - it doesn’t matter. Concerted pressure from people desperate about their children and worried about the prescribing of puberty blockers has made this happen.

I feel for the parents of gender dysphoric children who may feel horrified at this news. But then again, there has been criticism of the Tavistock from within the transgender community too. I hope this is welcomed as a positive step. I’m not crowing here. I’m just intensely relieved that after all the whistleblowing and campaigning, the Cass Review is doing the job we all wanted it to do. To look dispassionately at the facts.

It's not a shame. They are being damaged by being there and it's been deemed not safe by a panel of experts.

What would be a shame is if those young people currently being treated there were left hanging with no alternative (proper, safe) support and no attempts to undo any damage done. Hopefully the transition into the new multidisciplinary teams will be swift and well-managed.

That's a bit desperate when reporting goes like this, and this literally the first few paragraphs:

(And what about the children who live in London 🙄)

The NHS is shutting down its gender identity clinic for children after a review found that it failed vulnerable under-18s.

It will be replaced by regional centres at existing children’s hospitals offering more “holistic care” with “strong links to mental health services”.

Tavistock’s Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) clinic has been accused of rushing children into life-altering treatment on puberty blockers.

The paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass...found that the Tavistock clinic was “not a safe or viable long-term option” and that other mental health issues were “overshadowed” when gender was raised by children referred to the clinic.

It's almost like when they read words, they give them a meaning opposite to everyone else !

This week can't get much better

Yay!!!!!!! 😃

This is a real OMG moment. I expect was they found when they dug was shocking.

In addition to those already mentioned for thanks I'd like to add Stephanie Davies Arai. I feel this may go some way to explain her recent surprise honour for services to children.

Let's hope this is a big step in the right direction

I agree with a PP that Mumsnet feels like a safe place to say how I truly feel about all this. In the real world, it's not easy to speak out

Brilliant news. But my heart goes out to all the vulnerable children and their parents who have been gaslit by the most unsuitable people and groups in the world, influencing children into believing they're the wrong sex.

Now get these toxic groups out of schools and away from children and let's start treating mentally unwell children with care, compassion and effective mental health support.

It's interesting to see which news outlets are the most "captured" by how they're reporting on it:

Times & Telegraph: detailed articles
BBC News: a very short piece stating just the bare facts
Guardian: so far, tumbleweed...

On R4 now!

HOLY SHIT!!!

I know someone who did a placement at the Tavistock.She turned up expecting to deploy her psychoanalytic skills and was utterly shocked and dismayed at what she witnessed. Children with troubled backgrounds and mental health issues weren't being given the therapy they needed but instead were just being given puberty blockers. I hope the Tavistock can turn around and once again become a proper therapy centre.

I'm also hoping this news will help people realise that all is not well in gender world. One of my friends resolutely refuses to listen to me about this stuff, and thinks I'm a conspiracy theorist. When I told her about the Tavistock she said 'the doctors know what they are doing. I trust medicine. No one is treating kids with untested medications.' Well, maybe she will reflect on this and wonder if there is something to my position after all.

This is absolutely fantastic news!

I've read very little about the Cass report. Does anyone know if it's likely to go into the reasons behind the failures - e.g. the political capture and why that was allowed to happen?

Well done everyone concerned and well done for not being cowed by the bullies