Kemi Badenoch through to next round

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If you have a Conservative MP and want to protect the rights of women and safeguard children please email them TONIGHT and ask them to support Kemi.

Penny Mordaunt still the bookies favourite (and they aren't often wrong) but we need to let everyone know how dangerous it will be for this woman to become PM; I don't believe she has changed her mind for one moment.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

It's why I find I don't end up putting huge amounts of weight on education policy, I'm too unhappy with the visions of education offered by pretty much anyone in politics. I do think it needs rethinking from the ground up, which won't happen. And to be fair, I am not sure it is a politically possible thing for any politician.

I certainly think there are things that are more common to left type approaches I like, I think there needs to be a certain commitment financially, I actually think schools should all provide lunches to any student who wants them (though I see this as more of a conservative thing actually, but no one else seems to these days.) On the other hand I hate that they are too inclined to high level state control, to using schools to indoctrinate kids, and I think they are slightly more susceptible to educational fads. The CP on the other hand tends to under-fund, and they are more susceptible to thinking about schools as only about jobs, and sometimes to take too mechanistic "results-based" approach to education that really doesn't work. But on the other hand they seem more inclined to accept the proper parental role and avoid seeing schools as an opportunity to indoctrinate kids, and I think it might be easier, in the end, to convince them to return more power to schools and communities.

But it's all a pipe dream really.

No, she isn't verging on fascist. Fascist does not mean a small-state economic libertarian and social conservative, which is what she is.

I watched a really interesting interview with him last night, by the Triggernometry guys, from about a year ago.

One of the things he commented on near the beginning of the video, somewhat in passing, is the idea that just because people have skin of a certain colour they are supposed to all have the same viewpoint on things - in fact he said it was probably just about the most racist idea out there.

I'd recommend it, it was quite moving in places which I didn't expect.

It would be very good to see her hold PM's feet to the fire on tv.

Last time didn't they all promise to have an investigation into Islamophoibia in the Tory party? Whatever came of that?

Sunak = 101

Interestingly, Badenoch + Truss = 115 and Tugendhat + Mordaunt = 115.

No , I will not support her after she revealed that one of the ways to save money , in Education, was to remove ...
"Superfluous support staff and peripheral activities."

At the tv debate they need to go after Mordaunt re gender . V interesting conversation with Braverman about this on PM today.

Well, reading this thread has been very interesting and made me realise I am not quite as much of a single issue voter as I thought I was! But I view all this as being VERY helpful in moving the Overton Window.
All the candidates know that the ‘correct’ answer to the question ‘are you in favour of single sex spaces and women only sports’ is now ‘yes’.

And that is a massive improvement on where we were a year ago.

Nothing would please me more than for this to become mainstream across all the parties and I can go back to considering other things when voting.

Pink News headline today: "Kemi Badenoch helped quash trans inclusive workplace policies as equalities minister"

www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/07/14/kemi-badenoch-financial-conduct-authority-trans-inclusive-workplace/

'According to Vice, in November 2021, Badenoch said in a letter to the FCA: “The ‘sex’ of an individual is an important protected characteristic. It would be helpful to understand what measures are in place to ensure that your approach does not undermine your efforts to measure and improve the representation of the female sex in company boards.'

Given that this had to be got out of the FCA by an FOI request, it does seem Badenoch isn't merely engaging in anti-woke posturing.

‘Nothing would please me more than for this to become mainstream across all the parties and I can go back to considering other things when voting.’

Amen to that. But given Mordaunt is considering Leadsom as her Chancellor, and she is backed by Maria Miller, I think we’re just getting started.

Following this thread with interest.

Andrea Leadsom as Chancellor of the Exchequer? WTF!

Has anyone heard journalists raising this? So far it's only being raised by the candidates themselves .

The women locked up with Karen White were deliberately placed in a vulnerable situation which resulted in sexual assault.
The stats show that transwomen keep the same offending rates as other biological males.( if not actually higher)
Women should not be shamed for trying to keep the most vulnerable women in society safe.

You are a disingenuous arse Ides. Men commit 99% of sex crimes irrespective of how they identify. That is all the justification needed to demand single sex spaces are maintained. Please post evidence that this statement isn't true or kindly shut up.

@ides I don’t think you are making the point you want to make. In fact you are showing yourself up for the misogynist you are, who does not care about safety of women at all.

@Iknowitisheresomewhere could help me with something please?

What do you mean by a woman?

@Ides

All you do by showing up here and attempting to mock our politics is demonstrate that you have no respect for women and their concerns. We know that already. Begone, eh?

Woman = adult human female.

Women only sports = competitions/physical activity sessions exclusively for members of the female sex.

'According to Vice, in November 2021, Badenoch said in a letter to the FCA: “The ‘sex’ of an individual is an important protected characteristic. It would be helpful to understand what measures are in place to ensure that your approach does not undermine your efforts to measure and improve the representation of the female sex in company boards.'

Why would this be a problem? Do some people actually want to undermine the representation of women?

That’s exactly the point they’re trying to make.

Thank you. @Iknowitisheresomewhere and what do you mean by female?