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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kemi Badenoch through to next round

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InTheCanteen · 13/07/2022 17:24

If you have a Conservative MP and want to protect the rights of women and safeguard children please email them TONIGHT and ask them to support Kemi.

Penny Mordaunt still the bookies favourite (and they aren't often wrong) but we need to let everyone know how dangerous it will be for this woman to become PM; I don't believe she has changed her mind for one moment.

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Findwen · 13/07/2022 21:38

I volunteer as a school governor in a major city. Our school has become known for its inclusion and success for SEND children, which means ever more SEND children are sent due to its success. The county has nothing like enough space at special schools - so our school takes children with ever more additional needs. No idea what the cause is - but the percentage of SEND children only grows.

The school building is really old. It cannot expand in any direction, there is no room unless the already small playground is built on. The children's additional needs make it so hard for these children to be in the mainstream class for long periods of time, so many arrive having had awful life circumstances that takes the stoniest of hearts not to weep over. The school has rearranged and made calming spaces - but it is ever harder for the staff to manage ever greater percentage of children with needs, some of which are considerable.

The council simply doesn't have the money to open new schools that can truly cater for these children. Our school has received a lot more funding recently - but that doesn't create more square meters of space -- and that is what is really needed.

I have no idea what Kemi Badenoch plans - but from my small window into our local situation, something drastic needs to change.

Blossomtoes · 13/07/2022 21:43

antifascist · 13/07/2022 21:15

This will the the 3rd Prime Minister in a row who was first elected to office by the Conservative membership, not by the country.

Wrong. May was selected only by MPs in a coronation. And Cameron became PM after half winning one election and properly winning a second. It’s what happens when you have representative government. Johnson mistakenly believed he had a personal mandate.

MediocreHRPerson · 13/07/2022 21:46

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EdinburghFeminist · 13/07/2022 21:53

antifascist
This will the the 3rd Prime Minister in a row who was first elected to office by the Conservative membership, not by the country.

"Wrong. May was selected only by MPs in a coronation. And Cameron became PM after half winning one election and properly winning a second. It’s what happens when you have representative government. Johnson mistakenly believed he had a personal mandate."

May was selected in MPs only (because it didn't need to go to the Conservative membership after Andrea Leadsom pulled out of the race) and then Johnson was initially PM, elected by the Conservative membership before holding an election a few months later.

theworldhas · 13/07/2022 21:54

The way the candidates have bemoaned the last ten years you’d think that the Conservatives had been in opposition the whole time. It’s actually quite amusing but I do hope a few brave journalists will be reminding them that’s it their government which has created poverty in work, massive rises in homelessness and food bank usage, unaffordable homes, and walloped our GDP with Brexit. I hope they are reminded that the vast majority of them voted for the vast majority of it.

As a report doing the rounds today showed, from the top 10-20%, the other 80% of Brits continue to fall further and further behind those of same percentile wealth in France and Germany, and the figure is growing year on year. It’s literally been 12 years of wealth transference.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-12/uk-families-nearly-9-000-worse-off-than-in-comparable-countries

Blossomtoes · 13/07/2022 21:59

May was selected in MPs only (because it didn't need to go to the Conservative membership after Andrea Leadsom pulled out of the race)

Yes, that’s what I said - a coronation. May and the candidate in third place could have been put to the membership vote.

Catsdrool · 13/07/2022 22:20

jgw1 · 13/07/2022 21:26

Does Jeremy Corbyn know what a woman is?

What has that got to do with anything?

SheepDog1 · 13/07/2022 22:35

This is enough for me to think she dose not have the ability to put women first

Kemi Badenoch through to next round
Diamondsareforever123 · 13/07/2022 22:36

Good lord no! What I am saying is that a black person who denies racism exists is either stupid or a liar. She's a liar.

SwedishEdith · 13/07/2022 22:59

List of non-MPs endorsing her, apparently. Pretty gruesome lot.

Kemi Badenoch through to next round
antifascist · 13/07/2022 23:01

Blossomtoes · 13/07/2022 21:43

Wrong. May was selected only by MPs in a coronation. And Cameron became PM after half winning one election and properly winning a second. It’s what happens when you have representative government. Johnson mistakenly believed he had a personal mandate.

Will be the third in a row

May
Johnson
AN OT(H)ERF

Clymene · 13/07/2022 23:37

You're welcome @BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ Smile

NippyWoowoo · 13/07/2022 23:55

I think this has to be the stupidest thing I’ve read all day

NippyWoowoo · 13/07/2022 23:58

NippyWoowoo · 13/07/2022 23:55

I think this has to be the stupidest thing I’ve read all day

Ugh. The quoting multiple quotes function doesn’t seem to be working.

SpindleInTheWind · 14/07/2022 00:07

theworldhas · 13/07/2022 19:59

Hopefully Penny Morduant will win as she’s the only major politician from either major party not afraid to show her support for trans men and women.

Unfortunately, she very much is afraid of this aspect of her past activity.

Apols if this has been mentioned before on the thread, but there's a Twitter thread from Benjamin Cohen (Pink News) on Mordaunt's bizarre 'reverse ferret' over this.

I don't know who she is at all.

I'd like an honest politician for once. This currently is more like an episode of The Apprentice.

basilmint · 14/07/2022 00:16

don’t think she means that. I think she means the culture of one-to-one TAs for children with significant learning challenges in order to promote ‘inclusion’ - which, when you look at the results on a population level, doesn’t work. I’m not being ‘small state’ about this, I just question how much money you can put into something to protect a principle.

Do you work in education? There are barely any special school places available (due to lack of funding). In my primary school we have more than one non-verbal pupil who do nothing but scream, hit, run off. Without 1:1 support these children are a danger to themselves and the other pupils. There are no special school places for them and even if there were there are no speech and language therapists, EPs etc available to come and assess them so we could get them access to a special school place. If Kemi Badenoch has any suggestions for how such children will be educated I'm sure those of us at the chalk face are all ears.

jgw1 · 14/07/2022 07:05

Catsdrool · 13/07/2022 22:20

What has that got to do with anything?

Everything. Did you know Keir had a beer in the north? @Catsdrool

achillestoes · 14/07/2022 07:25

‘What I am saying is that a black person who denies racism exists is either stupid or a liar. She's a liar.’

That’s a strong position. Where did she deny racism exists? Quotes?

achillestoes · 14/07/2022 07:25

I don’t want to comment on my job (TRAs like doxxing people).

cantthinkofanothergoodusername · 14/07/2022 07:31

she's a critic of critical race theory, not a denier of racism. Sir Trevor Philips is another prominent critic of CRT.

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2022 07:41

antifascist · 13/07/2022 23:01

Will be the third in a row

May
Johnson
AN OT(H)ERF

May wasn’t elected, she was crowned.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2022 10:39

List of non-MPs endorsing her, apparently. Pretty gruesome lot.

There's nothing "gruesome" about Sharron Davies.

antifascist · 14/07/2022 14:43

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2022 10:39

List of non-MPs endorsing her, apparently. Pretty gruesome lot.

There's nothing "gruesome" about Sharron Davies.

8 extreme right wing men and Sharron Davies-

ScribblingPixie · 14/07/2022 15:11

She's through again, and I think now it's TV debates? Very pleased that both she and Tom Tugendhat are through, so hopefully their keenness for change will mean that all the candidates will be pushed into forthright discussion of ideas.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2022 15:48

Next vote on Monday apparently so a lot will happen in terms of engagement and the media between then and now!

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