Is CIS a legal term?

[purpleboy]

So I had a conversation with a friend the other day who is adamant Cis is an accurate descriptor of women and that it is written into law?
I asked where but she couldn't specify just stating it's a factual term (referencing women) that is legally recognized.
I've had a look and can't seem to find anything to back this up, but I know the wise women here will know if there is any truth to this.
Thanks in advance.

Following this. I refuse to refer to myself as such

No! Of course it’s not!

Of course it’s bloody not!!

Not in the Equality Act. I imagine not in any other other law but I can't say for sure (the new MP maternity one?)

However much a few people would like it to be the case … it carries zero meaning for most of the English speaking population.

Of course it isn't. And when it's used, it doesn't just refer to women, it is used by gender ideologists to refer to men and women who they think are happy to conform to the sex based stereotypes associated with their sex. So "cis men" and "cis women" are both used.

The fact your friend couldn't back it up with anything at all is key here.

No it's not. Nor is "gender identity" which is what the conversion therapy consultation tried to get on the statute books

Hmm didn't think so!
She is very much be kind, but also doesn't agree with most of the demands being made so I guess sits somewhere in the middle, I think she has probably read the term and not thought about it too much. She was really adamant though and wouldn't back down even though she couldn't remember where it was stated in law!

No.

Sorry but she sounds unbearable. She’s absolutely sure, but has no idea. Eye roll.

TRA's will tell you that it's ordinary language, but it's not. It's the gender ideologists jumping up and down on a 'rarely used outside of a niche scientific discipline' Latin term.

even though she couldn't remember where it was stated in law!

She could Google it. If is law, it'll be there

It’s a strange term, I was interested , so I discovered that the first time it was used in the current context was in the late 1940’s , in Germany. The context was ‘aberrant sexual behaviour and pathology’.

I think it derives from Roman provincial government! Northern Italy was a government area known as Gallia Cisaplina, that is , the part of Gaul which is on our ( Roman) side of the Alps. As the Republic expanded , they acquired part of Southern France, which was then named Gallia Transalpina ( Gaul across the Alps). I suppose the term just attracted some adherents due to the later acquisition.

Not much to do with sex or gender, then. The Romans had many faults, but they knew what a women was.

No, it's a term established by a paedophile

Not only is it not an official or legal term but it is offensive to many of us.

If your friend genuinely means to be kind perhaps not using offensive terminology would be a good start.

I said this to her, that women and TW are adequate descriptors, she didn't really have much to say to that and just shrugged.

I don't think it's a topic she has much knowledge on, initially it was be kind, then when I spoke about prisons, changing rooms, schools etc... she was very much, don't be silly of course that's not ok, then it was but the numbers are so low.... now I think she's heard/read this term and is using it without realizing how offensive it is.

Hers another question, what does heteronormative mean?
I could Google it but can't really be arsed tbh 😅

No.

And there's no definition of it either.

However you are dealing with a political lobby who will look you in the eye and swear to you that left is right and up is down and that it's a fact and law and evidenced, and when you show evidence to the contrary or the lack of evidence will just refuse to look or accept that those facts exist. This is about personal realities, where selective facts are chosen and unwanted facts are blanked: you can't really expect much of a rational conversation based on any shared meaning after that. It's the fundamental problem with the whole ideology.

So this lobby spread their chosen political reality as if fact, confidently asserting it, and certainly giving the impression as much as possible that it is law, that it is so, that everyone knows it, that only old and silly bigots question it, yada yada. It's car salesman stuff, and many have fallen for it. The aim is to fix the chosen reality in place.

Hence the whopping great payouts heading the way of several women at the moment, and the massed concern in government/Cass review, and so on.

No it's not in law. It's just a label that has been forced on us without choice by people who are extremely particular about how we refer to them.

'Cis' is the bullshit language of those who believe in the gender identity ideology used to shoehorn males into our sex class by pretending that they are a subset of the female category.

You are not obliged to use it at all. It's nonsense.

It just means straight and 'comforming'. They use to reframe straight people with no 'gender identity' as the baddies. The evil oppressors of all the genders.

The patriarchy invented a new iteration of the mental load for women with this. Its genius really, it affects all of us and we can't opt out.

Why does gay and straight not upset people but cis does. I don't like cis btw.

It suggests a subset of women which does not exist.

This is how I see it but my brother said if I'm happy to be described as a straight woman I should also accept cis woman. It's accepting many forms of sexuality descriptors but also then many women descriptors. I can't articulate it in a way he understands.

In others words straight means not gay and cis means not trans. His words but it doesn't make sense right?