Is CIS a legal term?

[purpleboy]

So I had a conversation with a friend the other day who is adamant Cis is an accurate descriptor of women and that it is written into law?
I asked where but she couldn't specify just stating it's a factual term (referencing women) that is legally recognized.
I've had a look and can't seem to find anything to back this up, but I know the wise women here will know if there is any truth to this.
Thanks in advance.

I say to him woman and trans woman works for me.

In others words straight means not gay and cis means not trans. His words but it doesn't make sense right?

That's nonsense, because if that was all it meant, a trans woman would be a biological female person who identifies as a man. It imposes a belief system on people that they often wholeheartedly reject.

Your brother doesn’t understand at all. The two are not even vaguely equivalent. And he also doesn’t get to tell you that you should be perfectly fine and happy with nonsensical gender ideology magical thinking/anti-reality claptrap being imposed upon you without your consent.

We already have a perfectly good word for ‘adult human female’ as opposed ‘adult human male who wishes he was female/feels like he is his made-up idea of what female would feel like’. It’s ‘woman’. They do not get to re-classify our sex to suit their agenda.

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There are many types of women, but they're all female. 'Cis' is irrelevant, and muddies rather than clarifying anything.

Straight woman, tall woman, short woman, fat women etc are all women. Transwomen are not. Woman is enough to describe an adult human female.

Of course it's not. It's an offensive term and nobody should be using it.

It is rather like announcing that from here on there will be Labour voters and Scum. But it's fine if you get called scum, cos it only means not a Labour voter.

It's a political label that subordinates women, is often used as a term of abuse, and makes a lot of negative, prejudiced assumptions, while entrapping everyone into a belief system regardless of whether or not they hold it.

Not seen it on any official documents, surveys or work/HR communication.

It is a made up term been shoehorned into everyday use, regardless of who it offends.

@willowglass

Would your brother understand this:

Straight woman v bisexual v gay woman = all women hence the descriptor is fine to indicate a subset of women.

Black woman v white woman = all women

Tall woman v short woman = all women

Cis woman v trans woman sets up the understanding = all women.

As this is NOT the case, the the cis is completely unnecessary and which is why it's offfensive.

Woman v man
Woman v transwoman
Woman v cat

Straight and gay are words we use to communicate relevant information about ourselves and who we may possibly be interested in sexually interacting with, and who we definitely won't be touching ever. It is a factual, measurable reality of human experience.

"Cis" and "trans" are internal, so how does your brother know someone is "cis"? Maybe he's looking at someone who is xenogender? It's like speculating what shape soul someone has. www.lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Xenogender

Xenogender is an umbrella term for non-binary gender identities that cannot be fully described through their relation to concepts typically used to describe gender such as male, female, woman, man, masculinity, femininity, androgyny, neutrality, agenrinity, or outherinity. Instead, xenogenders can best be described through how they relate to things, beings, or concepts that most individuals don't think of as having to do with gender, such as animals, plants, things, or concepts. It is sometimes described as any gender that "cannot be contained by sapi understandings of gender". The gender quality associated with xenogenders is xeninity. The opposite of xenogender is anthrogender.

Xenogender individuals often have a strong understanding of how their gender feels to them, however they often find that there aren't any words for their experiences, this is called a lexical gap. In order to fill that gap xenogender individuals often describe their gender through metaphors, by saying their gender is like, is influenced by, or shares qualities with something else.

When described, xenogenders often fall into one of three categories:

Nouns and Archetypes: instead of saying how one's gender relates to masculinity and femininity, one says one's gender is, or is like, a kind of animal, an imaginary being, a part of nature, an abstract concept, or a symbol. These are called noungenders.

Aesthetic and/or Synaesthetic Perceptions: when a gender is described using things like texture, size, shape, time, light, sound, or other sensory characteristics. These can often overlap with noungenders. These are called aesthetigenders.

Neurotypes: when a neurodivergent individual's neurotype(s) is/are an inseparable part of their gender identity. These genders are exclusive to individuals of the neurotype(s) associated with them. These are called neurogenders.

It's a political label that subordinates women, is often used as a term of abuse, and makes a lot of negative, prejudiced assumptions, while entrapping everyone into a belief system regardless of whether or not they hold it.

YY. It's loaded. It's not a neutral term:

No it has not filtered into official gender recording. The options are still man, women, other or rather not say.
I don’t think it’s necessary to add vis to woman when trans is far more descriptive of men who identify as women but are not biological women. It pointless and frankly insulting.

I judge anyone who uses it. It is an expression for ignorant wankers determined to define women out of their own sex class

I'm not sure what you mean by 'a legal term' but 'cisgender' is in the Oxford English Dictionary.

I'm pretty sure "straight" was to contrast with "bent" - the old derogatory term for gay. Maybe not so inoffensive 🤷🏼‍♀️

I actually do find the word straight offensive because it derives from gay people being called bent. Bent implies something is damaged and is therefore homophobic (and don't even get me started on queer).

The definition given is always that it means that your “gender identity” matches you “birth gender”. You have to have a gender identity in the first place, and assume that “birth gender” means “sex” for it to even start to apply.

No matter how hard I try, I can’t summon up a scintilla of “gender identity”.

Moreover, I don’t accept the societal expectations attached to biological sex anyway, and never did. I don’t think I’m alone in this.

So, no, I don’t think “cis” is analogous to “straight”.

It's in the latest training on LGBTQI+ in schools to be used. (Certainly in Scotland)

Would love to know who that was, I refuse to be described as a cid woman and the background of who coined the term would be useful to know

cid even autocorrect knows its not a word

Its loaded if you choose to believe it is.

It just means you identify with the gender you were born into the sex of
And before anyone tells me its misogynistic theres cismen.

I have never, ever heard it cause so much offence outwith Mn.

I'm an atheist - is that offensive to me because I'm labelled as something in relation to an ideology I dont believe in?

I judge people who call people ignorant wankers for using s completely legitimate term. It's not all about you.

It is in schools I s Scotland