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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Amy Hamm - Canadian Nurse being disciplined for being GC

913 replies

IcakethereforeIam · 05/07/2022 12:57

I've not seen a thread on Amy on MN and the search didn't show up anything. She seems to be being put through the wringer by tras and by her nursing college.

I thought if she saw this thread it might be cheering Flowers, she's on twitter. I found her thanks to Bette.

quillette.com/2022/04/08/im-being-investigated-by-the-british-columbia-college-of-nurses-because-i-believe-biological-sex-is-real/

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hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:00

BF - still trying to push the exclusion angle.

We are not men's shields.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:02

bf: a woman might be triggered by a woman with a penis
AH: I don't believe women have penises

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:03

I support Vancouver rape crisis centre monthly.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:05

BF - give it up please.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:07

Not women's problem if transwomen are scared of using the men's bathroom.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2023 23:08

This is great, thanks so much for the live reporting.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:10

I think LB is losing the will to live. I thought she was going to object when bf started with the racial segregation.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:11

Pathogen disgust in washrooms? What is she talking about?

BH - trying to align not wanting TIM in bathrooms with this.

Ridiculous.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:12

BF: Your position - that there shouldn't be anyone in a female only space who wasn't assigned female at birth - is based on the pathogen disgust reaction described by Dr Bower

AH: an outrageous accusation. False. I welcome trans people into spaces. It's nothing to do with a pathogen disgust, just the threat that male people are to female people.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:14

AH repeating over and over - males as a sex class pose a risk to females as a sex class and that is the basis of needing sss. TW are biologically male and so belong to the same sex class that pose a risk to women.

BF having a good think about that

chilling19 · 06/11/2023 23:15

BF - not winning the argument.
AMY - Bring up safeguarding which starts from everyone is able to do harm.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:16

BF trying to say there is no evidence that TW pose any threat to women.

AH gives another eg

BF that's just an anecdote. You have no research to contradict Dr Bower

AH - no research cos women who try to address this get death/rape threats and lose our jobs.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:18

This really is Kafkaesque.

CyberCritical · 06/11/2023 23:19

Do you get the feeling that if Lisa Billy or Amy Hamm could reach through the phone lines and throttle BF they would

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:19

AH: for me, one example of a women being raped/harmed is enough.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:19

AH - good point that the reason there is no research (apart from the research that shows that men commit 90+% of crimes) because no-one is not allowed to research.

Also, we don't care about what WPATH has to say.

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:21

We don't care if all the captured institutions say different. Which is the whole point really.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:25

BF reminds me of one of those zombie caterpillars which has been taken over by a parasitic wasp and is doing its bidding. Does she not realise that as a woman and a lesbian she is actively acting against her own interests. [I know it's her job...]

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:28

BF - still pushing the marginalised angle.

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:28

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:25

BF reminds me of one of those zombie caterpillars which has been taken over by a parasitic wasp and is doing its bidding. Does she not realise that as a woman and a lesbian she is actively acting against her own interests. [I know it's her job...]

She believes that TWAW so she may only identify as a lesbian.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:31

AH brings in the eg of the rapist who raped a baby and is now housed in a women's prison which has a mother and baby unit.

BF: I'm going to move one to another question

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:32

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:31

AH brings in the eg of the rapist who raped a baby and is now housed in a women's prison which has a mother and baby unit.

BF: I'm going to move one to another question

Obviously

hatefulbigotTERF · 06/11/2023 23:34

Still, we are not men's shields

Signalbox · 06/11/2023 23:34

bf is just like a really inarticulate 15 year old trans activist on Twitter.

Mmmnotsure · 06/11/2023 23:35

AH women are starting to suffer from the urinary leash again because of self ID. Third spaces would be great. I advocate for women and children.