Transwomen are really upset by HRT shortages

[Smileandactlikeitsfine]

It makes their moods all over the place.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/hrt-crisis-impact-on-trans-community_uk_627bbc19e4b009a811cc19f3/

I mean us perimenopausal women take hrt for few other essential functions as well, but just as long as your moods are even mate.

Have you counted them?

*taken down

That might not sound too bad but now consider I never stop calling you a man. I tell you that you can't use the female bathrooms, that you will be forever called by a completely different name you have no association with

Who is saying they won't call them by the names they want?

Like referring to women as cis when they have asked you not to?

I wasn't going to but since you mentioned 7 posts

Now you really are just making stuff up!!

For the last time Cis is not a derogatory term, Cis is short for Cisgendered and it is a term used to distinguish the term without me having to say "Not a Trans Women" to explain myself

I won't tolerate being called a menstruator or any other made up term. I'm a woman. I'm not trying to force my way into another group and remove their rights; pay me the same respect.

As for the idea that feminism is for equality;

“Feminism is a political practice of fighting male supremacy on behalf of women as a class, including all the women you don't like, including all the women you don't want to be around, including all the women who used to be your best friends whom you don't want anything to do with anymore. It doesn't matter who the individual women are. They all have the same vulnerability to rape, to battery, as children to incest.
Poorer women have more vulnerability to prostitution, which is basically a form of sexual exploitation that is intolerable in an egalitarian society, which is the society we are fighting for.”
Andrea Dworkin

''Men have defined the parameters of every subject. All feminist arguments, however radical in intent or consequence, are with or against assertions or premises implicit in the male system, which is made credible or authentic by the power of men to name.
No transcendence of the male system is possible as long as men have the power of naming... As Prometheus stole fire from the gods, so feminists will have to steal the power of naming from men, hopefully to better effect.''

Andrea Dworkin

But posters have asked you not to and you have continued to do so.

How is that different from -

'That might not sound too bad but now consider I never stop calling you a man. I tell you that you can't use the female bathrooms, that you will be forever called by a completely different name you have no association with

Cis is derogatory. The term is women. There are women and there are trans women.

And cis is a nonsense term, co-opted by social science researchers in 1994.

For the last time Cis is not a derogatory term, Cis is short for Cisgendered and it is a term used to distinguish the term without me having to say "Not a Trans Women" to explain myself

It's a loaded term. It's grounded in your personal ideology, that we do not accept. If it was a neutral word which just meant "non trans" a "trans woman" would mean a biological female person who identifies as a man.

Slowpoke is clearly a men's rights activist of some kind.

Right but why is the majority of feminist discussion at least on MumsNet focused around such a small subset of Trans Women.

Because it is easy, it is easy to criticise a minority group or others that you deem as less then. It's the same reason that Mens Right Activists act in direct opposition to Feminism, because they feel that women are less then

In short. The vast majority of women do not have anything against trans women, however their rights should not trump biological woman’s rights.
For example, If a trans woman does not feel safe or comfortable using the men’s bathroom, this is how some women feel about the woman’s bathroom being used by an intact trans woman. Why should the trans womans feelings be prioritised?

Yes, that's the vibe I have too, axolotlfloof

Because it is easy, it is easy to criticise a minority group or others that you deem as less then.

Who says they are "less than"? They are simply not female, that's all. It isn't personal, but sometimes it's important for women.

I can assure you I am not, i'm in direct opposition to Mens Rights Activism in its current form. Mens Rights Activism should be about supporting each other rather than putting others down a peg.

Real mens rights activism is involves breaking down toxic masculinity and fighting for a better standard of living, it involves supporting feminism and listening to women, it involves confronting the glaringly high suicide rate and allowing each other to speak openly about our mental health

You're not listening to women though, are you?

But by not viewing them as women you are viewing them as less then

Are you implying that women see themselves as being above men? How otherwise do you see not being a woman ‘less’?

I'm in Scotland.

Here -

• the Scottish Government tried to redefine the definition of the word woman
• are pushing through GRC reform despite 3 separate consultations with the public evidencing that the public do not agree with it.
• many of the major parties voted against the 'six words' amendment, meaning that they believe that rape survivors should not be able to request the sex of their examiner.
• there are no single sex rape crisis services in many areas of Scotland and Scottish Women's Aid have issued a statement that they do not believe in single sex spaces.
• The Scottish Prison Service follow a self id policy and have placed at least 11 convicted male sex offenders into the female prison estate.
• women expressing concerns about self id have been harassed by the Police and stickers stating 'women won't wheesht' were investigated by Police as a hate crime.
• a MP received a 'credible' rape threat from a member of her political party and our 'feminist to her fingertips' FM has said not one of condemnation because said MP has expressed concerns about the erosion of single sex spaces.

There's loads more. All this is because our Government is institutionally captured by gender ideology.

That's why (as well as being involved and active in other feminist issues and action), I am interested in this topic. On a board specifically created to discuss this topic.

I'm happy listening to women and most of the Women I know support other Trans Women, many have Trans friends.

I'm also willing to read and look into pretty much anything you want to throw at me, I enjoy learning and i'm happy understanding a different point of view. For example I was reading Men Without Women recently which is a brilliant book.

You do realise that you can have trans friends and support trans people but also not want women’s rights to be eradicated?