Transwomen are really upset by HRT shortages

[Smileandactlikeitsfine]

It makes their moods all over the place.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/hrt-crisis-impact-on-trans-community_uk_627bbc19e4b009a811cc19f3/

I mean us perimenopausal women take hrt for few other essential functions as well, but just as long as your moods are even mate.

Actually, there is no need to “fix” anything, the system we have now is perfect. Women and men compete in different categories according to their natal, biological sex. After all we are perfectly happy to categorise weight lifters, boxers , wrestlers and weightlifters by weight categories, we see the wisdom of separating junior and senior athletes, we accept that it is right to organise Paralympic athletes by their disabilities, so why should sex differences be any different. If trans athletes are good enough to compete in their natal sex categories then that is what they do, if they aren’t good enough then -like the vast majority of the population - they accept that they are not good enough to be elite athletes.

Women’s sports exist so that women can compete, can test themselves against other women, achieve personal, National, international, world and Olympic records, women’s sports do not exist so that mediocre males can steal our scholarships, training programmes, careers, records, and achievements. If sporting achievement means anything it means achievement by effort, skill and application , not by cheating.

Of course. So there are a few studies. These are the 2 I know of, specifically the Philadelphia study is worth looking into. I understand that these are large scientific articles so I wouldn't expect anyone to read through the entire thing but I said i'd quote proper sources so here you are. Note that none of these studies state that there is a permanent change to the brain more that the brains structure changes whilst taking HRT, this agrees with the idea that the brain is plastic and provides a reason why people can sometimes be genderfluid or change gender later in life

European Society of Endocrinology
eje.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/eje/155/suppl_1/1550107.xml

Philadelphia study
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6235900/

It's a protection for Trans Women not the opposite. Not to mention some Trans Women who do undergo HRT need additional resources especially regular check ups for breast cancer.

Think, would you be any happier if a Trans Man walked into the women's bathroom and you couldn't tell if they where Trans.

Think about prisons and how a Trans Woman placed in a male prison might be considerably more at risk for sexual assault.
(I know it works both ways but just think about the latter)

I don't agree with it taking priority over women's sports and I think sex is important to consider in this scenario because anatomical differences could equate to a woman loosing out on an important opportunity.

I think there is a lot of fear of Trans Women which is really more of a fear of Male Crossdressers who give Trans Women a terrible reputation.
The difference is Trans Women and indeed Trans Men are a minority group so there is less opposition.

The system is perfect for you. There is a difference.

There is no cohesion between your arguments. I do not know how you cope with the cognitive dissonance.

Are you seriously saying that intact biological males are more at risk of sexual assault than women?

The reality is when you talk about safety Trans Women and Trans Men very rarely feel safe in any space, with the exception of maybe there own friends and LGBT spaces.

I went with my friend to an LGBT club at the university I used to study at and she almost broke down crying because never had she felt like she could truly be her self without the fear that someone would judge her

Well if you give an example i'll be happy to respond. Nope, blanket statement

Trans WOMEN are more at risk of sexual assault yes. Men are not more at risk

More at risk than WOMEN?

Well I thought i'd emphasise the word since you don't seem to understand the difference

Given the first article's title, I can't say that I view the research as having any sort of scientific credibility. Human beings are a dimorphic species so the initial premise of the the research is flawed. What the research does show is that cross sex hormones increase the relative size of the brain towards the typical measurements of the opposite sex. The researchers of that article have not done any research into the implications of whether the increase or decrease of the size of the brain (in particular the size of the hypothalamus) changes how the subject thinks and whether this becomes more 'manly' or feminine'. They do cite a change in the song of canaries (a different species) and some spatial, language and personality tests which might show more of a proclivity towards/against aggression and other characteristics but the research you've cited hardly shows a 'fundamental change in thinking'.

I feel like I'm watching a train crash in slow motion.....

You think I don't understand the difference between women and trans women?

Dearie me the ideological capture is strong with this one.

I'm out, it's pointless. One day you'll look back and cringe.

I can’t even bring myself to read those articles. I had to have a radical hysterectomy, so ovaries and everything out in my 30s and here I am sat at home with hot fucking flushes because I haven’t been able to fill my script today. Total bloody disgrace.

No, the system is perfect for 50% of the worlds population.

For the second article, l'll just quote this from the conclusion -

'The currently available structural MRI studies also contain small numbers of transgender adults and even fewer transgender adolescents. Given the profound impact of post-pubertal levels of and fluctuations in gonadal steroids on brain structure and function, data obtained from transgender adults who are many years post-puberty should not be extrapolated to adolescents who choose to block their transition to puberty. Similarly, individual factors such as socioeconomic status, race/ethnicity, education, exposures to childhood adversity, and lifetime stress or trauma could dramatically impact central nervous system function during critical windows of development leading to risk or resilience to cognitive and mood changes during hormonal manipulations [2, 3, 149].'

Thanks for the reply WaitWhat23. You make some really good points. Research into this area is pretty new so i'm sure in the coming years there will be greater evidence.

I know I said I wanted to add a reference for everything I post but similar to how psychology is studied it's important to consider not just brain structure but also ask how a persons cognitive perception has changed. I've attached 2 videos of Trans Women that explain the changes they have gone through mentally since taking HRT.

It's not HRT.

HRT means Hormone Replacement Therapy, and replaces hormones that the body used to make, but no longer does, for whatever reason.

The people are taking Cross Sex Hormones.

They're taking hormones their bodies have never and will never, produce. They will never produce these hormones because they do not have the necessary organs to produce them.

The terms can be used interchangeably

The researches in the first study you cited use the term 'Gender-Affirming Hormone Therapy' rather than HRT, which suggests that they are not used interchangeably.

They can. HRT is a blanket term which can include gender affirming hormone therapy.

do schools & universities go back soon? Asking for a friend!

trans women are men. Should their skeletons be dug up in 100 years time those skeletons will be male. You cannot change sex. There are no drugs on earth that will change the one on the left to the one on the right

Yep you can't change Sex, well done.

I don't get what point your trying to make here, I assume the backhanded comment means you assume i'm still in School or University as well which isn't true

Well, I actually thought you were stupid but now its confirmed....