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Transwomen are really upset by HRT shortages

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Smileandactlikeitsfine · 04/06/2022 00:05

It makes their moods all over the place.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/hrt-crisis-impact-on-trans-community_uk_627bbc19e4b009a811cc19f3/

I mean us perimenopausal women take hrt for few other essential functions as well, but just as long as your moods are even mate.

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slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 00:32

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 00:27

And let us have our fucking HRT!

Comparing the original article to one also published by the daily mail that directly discredits the original transgender people take up less than 1% of HRT. I'm also not allowed to call it HRT as well because apparently that doesn't describe it well enough

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/06/2022 00:33

Who calls pregnancy/gestation "harbouring a child"? Odd phrase.

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 00:37

I do realise it's hard to believe a percentage when I don't show any calculation or explanation behind it so i'll prove what I mean.

The article Number of trans people receiving NHS treatment rises 75% in five years amid national HRT shortage that's left menopausal women desperate

by the Daily Mail states that Of the 2021 patients, at least 1,500 were on HRT, a medicine in critical shortage

Looking at the graph they provide below it shows approximately 500k people received HRT in 2022 so the proportion of trans women receiving HRT is

1500 / 500000 * 100 = 0.3%

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 00:39

Even if you go with the fact that every single one of the 11,000 gender dysphoric patients listed under the NHS took HRT and that 1500 estimate is wrong it's still just 2.2%

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 00:42

Now compare the rise in HRT prescriptions over the past 2 years from 300k to 500k. That's a massive rise and 2.2% doesn't even begin to account for it. Maybe Women are just more open about requiring such a drug, a bit like how the stigma around antidepressants is slowly going away. That would make a lot more sense

Flumpsrus · 05/06/2022 00:42

So, 1500 trans women were getting HRT, whilst many women are going without?

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slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 00:48

Flumpsrus · 05/06/2022 00:42

So, 1500 trans women were getting HRT, whilst many women are going without?

Yes but Trans Women are not the main cause. You are blaming Trans Women for something that they barely have an effect on.

I take antidepressants and I wouldn't be happy with my prescription going to someone else purely based upon there gender. Especially as described the effects of Trans Women coming off HRT are different but can be equally severe, you are essentially going through puberty for a 3rd time

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slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 00:50

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It's pretty much just me but ok.

I reckon women should be able to get the medical help from HRT as and when they need it without having to compete with a man for it

So the next time my antidepressant prescription runs out i'll compete with someone else who's gender is more favorable

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 00:53

Slowpoke you talk absolute te bollocks amd you know it. Antidepressants are not sex based hormones are they dearie?

Flumpsrus · 05/06/2022 00:56

He’s definitely on the wind up now.

nightwakingmoon · 05/06/2022 00:59

It still is half term…

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 01:01

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Trans Woman need HRT. It's something they rely on to function in every day life. It's no different to me needing antidepressants to function properly and favouring physical over mental health is fine but both have different but equally detrimental effects.

The reason why i'm so adamant that it makes sense to just talk to other Trans Women and see it through there eyes is my friend tried committing suicide after coming off HRT, she considered after others convinced her that she could never be a woman that she should come off and i'd never want another Trans Women to go through the same experience. Just as i'd never want a Women to experience a shortage of HRT and the painful effects that come with it but taking preference for one over the other isn't how our health service works and thank goodness because a persons health shouldn't be determined by politics

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 01:03

nightwakingmoon · 05/06/2022 00:59

It still is half term…

Since i've had a similar comment i'm 23 i'm not a child and no I don't still study at University, if I did study at University I would probably be studying right now

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 01:04

Haha yes ladies i reckon he's been sneaking his Mum's Pernod out of the drinks cabinet. Never trust an aniseed flavour beverage.

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 01:04

and no I didn't take a politics or gender studies degree, I took Electronics quite literally the least offensive degree imaginable

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 01:05

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 01:04

Haha yes ladies i reckon he's been sneaking his Mum's Pernod out of the drinks cabinet. Never trust an aniseed flavour beverage.

No, I have my own house, a girlfriend, a decent job and a steady wage. What a shock

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 01:07

Haha why are you on here then?

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 01:11

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 01:07

Haha why are you on here then?

Because I was thinking of coming out to my mum as Non Binary and I wanted to see the kind of reaction that would enlist from a forum entirely dedicated to Mums. I was getting ready to post and then I found this post so thanks all you've really given me hope that i'm going to be disowned

Flumpsrus · 05/06/2022 01:12

Can you explain what makes you feel non binary? For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t disown my sons but would want to understand what makes them think this.

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 01:14

Slowpoke: So far you've told us your life history mate. Does your girlfriend know you regularly frequent Mumsnet chatting up all the ladies? You sound abit lonely. I'm going to bed now and sleep soundly knowing I'm an actual woman and that i had a jolly good chinwag about it all. I Think its time you climbed the wooden hill to Bedforshire too. Nunight doll.

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 01:23

Flumpsrus · 05/06/2022 01:12

Can you explain what makes you feel non binary? For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t disown my sons but would want to understand what makes them think this.

I hate being called a Boy or a Man, I hate being called a Handsome, like it's physically repulsive to me. Don't ask me why it just is.

I dress androgynous although at the moment more feminine. I get a lot of hatred for it but it's what I like. I've never been interested in male clothes and my Mum has always insisted I cut my hair short which I never wanted to do.

I'm disgusted by the way a lot of men talk especially about women, the fact that i'm associated with that by default makes me cringe and I haven't met a male friend who hasn't at least once made a derogatory statement towards other women behind closed doors.
This also applies to my Dad who in nearly any other scenario acts fine but when talking to my Mum can be derogatory and borderline abusive in the way he talks about her and acts around her as if everything is her fault.

I struggle to get along with my male friends and i'm friends with women more often than not. I can talk about my feelings and actually get into meaningful conversations.

I hate my body hair and I don't ever want muscles, the idea of them again is repulsive to me. Again I don't know why, brains are weird. I don't hate my genitals and the idea of having boobs is very alien to me so I would never transition to being a Trans Woman

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 01:24

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 01:14

Slowpoke: So far you've told us your life history mate. Does your girlfriend know you regularly frequent Mumsnet chatting up all the ladies? You sound abit lonely. I'm going to bed now and sleep soundly knowing I'm an actual woman and that i had a jolly good chinwag about it all. I Think its time you climbed the wooden hill to Bedforshire too. Nunight doll.

I don't frequent it. This the first time i've ever posted 😅
Granted having 4 days off and the fact that nothing is really open at the moment means I don't feel like i'm wasting much time but i'm not continuing the conversation tomorrow so i'm making the most of what I can

slowpoke5001 · 05/06/2022 01:33

Fanjoflaps · 05/06/2022 01:14

Slowpoke: So far you've told us your life history mate. Does your girlfriend know you regularly frequent Mumsnet chatting up all the ladies? You sound abit lonely. I'm going to bed now and sleep soundly knowing I'm an actual woman and that i had a jolly good chinwag about it all. I Think its time you climbed the wooden hill to Bedforshire too. Nunight doll.

I really do wish you would stop talking to me like i'm a child. It's incredibly patronising