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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans activists hound Nadhim Zahawi off university campus

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ChristinaXYZ · 30/05/2022 20:07

"Trans activists have hounded Nadhim Zahawi off a Russell Group campus, accusing him of “inciting hatred” by defining women as “adult human females”, The Telegraph can reveal.

The Education Secretary was met with dozens of student protesters chanting “Zahawi is a transphobe” and “Tory scum” while visiting the University of Warwick on Friday.

The Cabinet minister had to be ushered away from campus by security guards in dramatic scenes, as he was pursued by activists brandishing trans flags and placards."

Read more and see video on Telegraph's website

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/05/30/watch-trans-activists-hound-nadhim-zahawi-university-campus/

and on twitter

twitter.com/ewansomerville/status/1531339153958440961

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MissyB1 · 31/05/2022 14:49

Tanith · 31/05/2022 14:38

Very odd!
Now Nadhim Zahawi has tweeted to say "This student was very polite to me."
twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1531590554441621506

So I'm not sure if he is Yvette Cooper and Ed Balls' son, but I am pretty sure it's Guido Fawkes stirring again.

Well the lad is the spitting image of Ed Balls, so I’m guessing it is their son.

ResisterRex · 31/05/2022 15:02

To be fair, Zahawi might not be naming him as it could result in a Twitter pile on. Or because he doesn't want to give him the publicity. Or because he finds him an irrelevance but one he's happy to refer to in an abstract yet cordial way.

Barbadossunset · 31/05/2022 15:08

So I'm not sure if he is Yvette Cooper and Ed Balls' son

Tanith why don’t you think he’s Ed & Yvette’s son? Surely the newspapers would’ve printed an apology by now if he wasn’t?

ChristinaXYZ · 31/05/2022 15:11

Tanith · 31/05/2022 14:38

Very odd!
Now Nadhim Zahawi has tweeted to say "This student was very polite to me."
twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1531590554441621506

So I'm not sure if he is Yvette Cooper and Ed Balls' son, but I am pretty sure it's Guido Fawkes stirring again.

How is saying something true- that a particular person is there and did so-and-so - stirring?

The fact that Labour are so extreme in position on this subject, the fact that his mother would not answer a straight question on the subject, and him being so committed to the cause of trans activism that he went to heckle an invited guest at another student group's meeting is all very relevant to any voter in the UK - the issues are connected. I assume Joel is not a member of the Conservatives Students group at Warwick but he was taking it upon himself to interfere and was part of a cohort that were trying to make hearing the minister difficult (playing music etc as well as heckling) and therefore interfering the freedom of the group to invite a speaker and the freedom of speaker to be heard.

Nadhim Zahawi was very polite about it. And Joel may have been polite in the phrasing of his question but the whole effect of his and his friends behaviour is part of the chilling effect. And one of the group did seem to punch someone. The protestors were out of order.

I am glad Guido pointed it out that he was involved. Maybe his carpet route to a 6 figure salary post university (like many ex-ministers sons) may be less smooth.

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Hoardasurass · 31/05/2022 15:12

Ok can someone please explain "neptunic" to me please (am ro scared to Google it)

TullyApplebottom · 31/05/2022 15:15

Zahawi comes out of this well. Given the ball is about to come loose from the back of the scrum, as a certain person once put it, he is positioning himself well.

TheBiologyStupid · 31/05/2022 15:37

Hoardasurass · 31/05/2022 15:12

Ok can someone please explain "neptunic" to me please (am ro scared to Google it)

Someone of any of the 1001 different genders (apart from men) identifying as being attracted to anyone else of those genders (again, excluding men). I think. Very exclusionary, anyway. Bigots!

MagnoliaTaint · 31/05/2022 15:46

'Neptunic refers to an individual who is attracted to both Nonbinary and Female genders. It can also be described as the attraction to all people except men and man aligned and/or masculine aligned non-binary people. This orientation is mostly used by non-binary people to describe their attraction without relying on the gender binary, but it can be used by anyone.'

MagnoliaTaint · 31/05/2022 15:47

Idiots. How on earth do they think they can untether words from meanings yet still get to use them in any meaningful way?

SpindleSheWrote · 31/05/2022 15:53

MagnoliaTaint · 31/05/2022 15:46

'Neptunic refers to an individual who is attracted to both Nonbinary and Female genders. It can also be described as the attraction to all people except men and man aligned and/or masculine aligned non-binary people. This orientation is mostly used by non-binary people to describe their attraction without relying on the gender binary, but it can be used by anyone.'

That's a heterosexual man

SpindleSheWrote · 31/05/2022 15:53

Isn't it?

MagnoliaTaint · 31/05/2022 15:55

It could be anyone.

No mention of individual's sex, and 'non-binary' means male or female. So, a person of either sex attracted to people of either sex.

'human being'.

MagnoliaTaint · 31/05/2022 15:56

or 'human being who probably doesn't fancy Arnold Schwartzenegger', idk. It's fucking meaningless, about as descriptive as 'Sagittarian with INFJ tendencies'.

Cailleach1 · 31/05/2022 16:01

SpindleSheWrote · 31/05/2022 15:53

Isn't it?

After reading all the guff, I arrived at the same conclusion as you.

I think 'gender' seems to be employed to refer to personalities.

Cailleach1 · 31/05/2022 16:02

Or other variables other than sex.

SerenaVanDerWoodsenHumphrey · 31/05/2022 16:12

MagnoliaTaint · 31/05/2022 15:46

'Neptunic refers to an individual who is attracted to both Nonbinary and Female genders. It can also be described as the attraction to all people except men and man aligned and/or masculine aligned non-binary people. This orientation is mostly used by non-binary people to describe their attraction without relying on the gender binary, but it can be used by anyone.'

Ahh, this clarifies it, thanks! It's a person of any or no or fluid sex and/or gender who is solely attracted - on a sexual and/or romantic basis - to non-men*.

*

Artichokeleaves · 31/05/2022 17:38

I think I'm becoming bullshitphobic. Sad

Tis a major problem in this day and age.

MargaritaPie · 31/05/2022 18:16

"Trans activists have hounded Nadhim Zahawi off a Russell Group campus, accusing him of “inciting hatred” by defining women as “adult human females”

Is this literally all that happened or was there more to it? (there usually is)

KittenKong · 31/05/2022 18:27

Was one of the ‘leaders’ really Ed balls/Yvette cooper’s kiddo?

MagnoliaTaint · 31/05/2022 18:43

KittenKong · 31/05/2022 18:27

Was one of the ‘leaders’ really Ed balls/Yvette cooper’s kiddo?

Yep.

Hoardasurass · 31/05/2022 18:44

Thanks ladies you just never know with this stuff

LastTrainEast · 31/05/2022 19:31

"was there more to it?"

No reason to think so that I can see and the terrorists published their intent. Trying to silence people like this is normal behaviour now for certain groups. It probably happens most weeks.

Either the person speaking is 100% in agree with TRA rules or he is an enemy with no right to speak or be on their gang's territory.

Boiledbeetle · 31/05/2022 20:25

I do wonder how many of the females involved in this with their "no debate, shut up! You don't get an opinion you #£%& (four letter word beginning with t that I don't want to utter) get all upset and righteous about how horrible it is that women have been raped as part of the war in Ukraine, and women have been stopped from getting an education and forced back into burkas due to the will of men?

I wonder if they agree with both sets of those women bring told that there's no debate, to shut up and that they are not entitled to an opinion? Or would they just get angry that I just dared to compare them to the oppressors?

ScrollingLeaves · 31/05/2022 21:03

@MargaritaPie · Today 18:16
"Trans activists have hounded Nadhim Zahawi off a Russell Group campus, accusing him of “inciting hatred” by defining women as “adult human females”

Is this literally all that happened or was there more to it? (there usually is)

Why not look up the news reports?

Barbadossunset · 31/05/2022 21:14

Is this literally all that happened or was there more to it? (there usually is)

MargaritaPie what more might there have been?