A transwoman feeding their new born baby with their own milk..

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A website has said they have lost many followers with supporting this.

I just don’t understand why this is being promoted. If men in general were able to breastfeed children, why is this not being encouraged among married couples? Im sure plenty of men would be willing to step up and share breastfeeding with their partner.

It can’t be healthy for a baby to be fed this way, as surely the transwoman would be taking multiple type of hormones in order to remain transitioned?

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We can feel differently, but it clearly won't persuade either of us to change our views. That is why I was asking what in particular about this situation upset you that distinguished it from a born-woman breastfeeding?

Can I just say it's a woman, not a born-woman as we are born girls then become women.
Anyway there's a huge difference between a woman who has naturally produced milk during her pregnancy but has to have various medication that may seep through to baby and a man who can not possibly produce breastmilk naturally and who is pumped full of hormones and god knows what other shit. There really is no comparison.

Men have to take androgen blockade too, it's in one of the linked studies and known to pass with breast milk.
It doesn't say if it passes in artificial induced lactation, probably because they just don't know.

THIS.

How anyone could think it’s comparable is beyond me 🤯

The difference is that you're female @PenelopePipPip

I find it astounding you can't see that.

Women who use a surrogate = women who buy a baby

What's the research on feeding babies from other mammals?

I'd be willing to suspect you'd do better feeding a baby from many female mammals over a male human, as at least they're closer to the intended configuration.

Species is surely far less important than sex for baby mammal nutrition?

So, is it widespread? Are there issues?

Quite frankly it’s an outrage that this is being supported and promoted when natal women (I have no bloody idea what to call a woman born a woman anymore - whatever I say will offend someone) struggle and struggle to get breastfeeding support. This just smacks of me, me, me rather than the needs of the child.

This will likely be deleted but it you google this person, they wrote an article in the stranger saying that they got off on it. 🤮🤮

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Bravo. This is what I wanted to write! This is exactly it.

I don't know how medically feasible this is, definitely seems to be on the more experimental side of things, yet it's just being treated as a straightforward medical act.

But then again I've seen a lot of things said about transwomen that just seem to magically happen because they think they're female and body parts just magically work as if they are biologically female.

Oh. My. Fucking. God. That is disgusting @Rainbowshit 🤬😡🤬

That is absolutely disgusting. What woman would ever feel this way.

Men who are doing it to get their validation and euphoria, not because they want to feed their babies because they can't do that.

This is a real issue but needs to be separated from the idea it is/might be dangerous for the baby (aka how much hormones are they taking vs women, effect of man made hormones vs natural and of course quality of the breast milk )
These are two separate issues and need to be addressed differently. Otherwise you just are the risk of your whole argument against transwomen breastfeeding being dismissed as wrong.

"I don't know any man who has needed their newborn to suck their nipples to create a bond, or any women who choose not to or couldn't breastfeed for that matter, so that's a bullshit excuse for allowing this to happen."

Well clearly neither men or women need babies to suck their nipples to create a bond. The vast majority of babies in this country are formula fed and bond with their parents. B-feeding helps but is neither a necessary or sufficient condition for bonding. That doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile.

And whilst it may be atypical in this country we know suckling is typical for Aka fathers in Africa for example. And when I had DD1 breastfeeding counsellors were very keen to encourage DH to do both skin-to-skin and use a supplementary nursing system. So when I couldn't feed her bonding was still supported by physical closeness and simulated breastfeeding. And our experiences are clearly very different - the majority of women I know either chose not to breastfeed or found they could not, often due to lack of supply.

I am not allowing this to happen. I am not the breastfeeding police. But I cannot see any self-evident reason why parents who want to explore this should not, if both parents agree, the baby is being adequately fed and they are following medical advice.

I don't know what men are 'meant' to do. You are describing this involvement with feeding as if it is exclusively a female function but my original post was clear in pointing to examples of biological men lactating. I don't know whether they are meant to. I don't know whether I was not meant to. Implicit in your argument is some underlying concept of what is 'natural' or preordered about sex roles in relation to infant feeding. I am questioning whether we know what that is particular in an era when most infant feeding is delivered from adulterated secretions from other species of animals.

The world has officially gone mad trying to normalise the absurd and make the sane believe they're actually wrong for "normal"thinking. This does not sit comfortably with me on so many levels, soon we will be promoting a choice of gender at puberty and having gender reveal parties depending whether a teen decide to take the path of testosterone or oestrogen hormone treatment.

This. Weird,creepy disgusting. It takes 'performance parenting' to a whole new level

Presumably the female mother who birthed this baby could breast feed it? And isn't it odd how in other situations where male-born people become parents (be they gay male couples or males with female partners), there seems no particular push from those men to lactate to help them bond with their baby.

It's vile and unnecessary for a baby to feed a males nipple discharge, the end.

This x 1000

Can you stop with the fucking offensive 'born-women' @PenelopePipPip

It's women. We don't need a prefix.

If people support this madness under the guise of being supportive of trans people then they need rockets up their arses. It's disgusting. There's absolutely NO need for a trans woman to try breastfeeding a baby. Say what the hell you like but this is NOT for the benefit of the child in the slightest. It's purely selfish and disturbing. The parents, regardless of their biological sex or the one they may have transitioned to, wanted this in the media and consented to the publication of the photos. Why?

It's fucked up. Poor baby.

How??????? why?.....
who gave birth surely a trans male to female can’t just suddenly produce milk in any quantity or quality that would be required.

Vile, just vile to use a baby like this to validate a man as a transwoman, especially one who gets sexual satisfaction from this horrible act that he’s performing. Poor baby is all I can say. I cannot bear to think of the life it will be forced to endure when both parents, evidently put their own wants before its needs 😟

@SabiRiver however artificially inseminating a cow, taking her calf away from her and slaughtering it at 9weeks in order to ensure she becomes pregnant and lactates 'naturally' creates a secretion you are happy having in your cuppa?

I'm not a vegan btw. Just really struggling to understand why this is good and a liquid from a male animal would not be, particularly since we slaughter and eat the bulls and coagulate their blood to make 'pudding'.